Patek Philippe Watches and Wonders 2022. 5230P / 5231G / 5930P. A " new " wave of World Timers.

Aug 16, 2022,08:27 AM
 


Evolutions rather than pure novelties, this year, for the Patek World Timers. 

Indeed, there are no new references in this kind of complications, but long awaited dial and metal variations for at least two references, the 5230, which comes with a platinum case, and the 5231 which is now offered in white gold. The third reference is the 5930 which receives a platinum case. 

I couldn't take any pictures at the Patek Booth, so we will do with the official photos to discover them. 

1/ The 5230P. 




The 5230 was issued for the first time in 2016, in white gold and in rose gold. This was a real novelty, since it received a new case, a new dial and a new set of hands. The movement is the same as the former " world timer only " the 5130 and the 5110, the legendary Cal 240 HU, with its delicious micro rotor and its good 48 hours power reserve. 


So we had to wait 6 long years before the platinum version was issued! 


Here, no surprise about the case and the hands, which are strictly the same than the rose gold and the white gold version, and as expected, the color of the dial changed, but... Surprise surprise, not only! 

Blue is a logical color, as it has been associated to Patek platinum world timers, but the surprise comes from the fact that the famous circular hand guilloché ala SunFlower is back!



A side by side picture to better show you the different guilloché between the white gold and the platinum versions: 



The guilloché is now closer to the 5930 dial, as shown here: 



I must say that I am intrigued by this choice. The specificity of the 5230 was this guilloché. Now it looks more like a 5110 or a 5930. While I like the circular finishing a lot, maybe it would have been better to stick to the style of the white gold dal version, in blue, for some identity reasons? 

2/ The 5231G: 


Long awaited also, this white metal case with an enamel dial for the 5231! 



Here, the only different detail is the dial. The case, the hands, the movement... All the same, but the dial represents South East Asia and Oceania. 



A nice photo of the case back and the Cal 240 HU. 



Always a pleasure to see these enameled versions. 

3/ The 5930P: 




This year, Patek offers a platinum case for its 5930 reference, which existed, till now, in white gold. 




Bye bye the blue dial, hello the green dial. This is the major change, with the heft of a platinum case. 




The movement is the automatic Cal CH 28-520 HU, which is a 30 minutes Fly Back chronograph, made of 343 parts and offering a 55 hours power reserve. 



Since the introduction of this reference in the catalogue, I would have liked a bigger chrono subdial, but I cannot deny it has a cool factor in real life. Now, changing the blue for the green, especially for a platinum case, I don't know... I have to digest that. 


Looking forward to reading your thoughts on these three world timers, 

Best,

Nicolas


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Hi Nicolas, I love world timers and enjoyed your post very much !

 
 By: GLau : August 16th, 2022-08:56
5230P is a beautiful watch a lovely blue guilloche dial ! The 5930P’s green dial is great if one wants an eye 👁 catching watch , but too bright for my taste 😉 The 5231G naturally is my addiction and poison ☠️ !🤣

Will you go for the 5231G?

 
 By: amanico : August 16th, 2022-08:58

lovely releases

 
 By: keks : August 16th, 2022-09:11
they all bring something fresh to the table... I do like the new guillouche work on the blue but not completely convinced with the all blue appearance against the outer ring... I would perhaps wish for something more like the 5110P but perhaps that would ... 

yes agree on the 5110p being more attractive... it has set a high standard for sure

 
 By: keks : August 16th, 2022-12:39
with regards to the 5930P, a blue would be too much of an overlap with the G which is already blue... I really like the green and could really see myself wearing one!

I see your point. Or grey?

 
 By: amanico : August 16th, 2022-17:07

Maybe!

 
 By: keks : August 16th, 2022-21:24
But red is hot: ...  

The 5230p is a real beauty

 
 By: whatmakesmetick (andrea) : August 16th, 2022-09:23
The current PP catalog doesn't appeal to me that much, but the world time is an exception

Exactly the same for me.

 
 By: amanico : August 16th, 2022-09:31

Though not being a fan of the WT

 
 By: George Gently : August 16th, 2022-09:46
I do like the 5230P. The combination of a complete blue dial and the suede leather strap are quite appealing.

Some lovely novelties from PP!

 
 By: Watcholic_id : August 16th, 2022-14:13
I'm with Keks for the 5230P, I think it would be better if the dial is not completely blue. As for the 5231G, I really like it. Of course because of the white metal + enamel, I prefer this reference over the 5131. And it would be even better if they chang... 

I understand. Thanks, coz.

 
 By: amanico : August 16th, 2022-17:09

Yes, slightly :)

 
 By: Watcholic_id : August 17th, 2022-01:44
both are magical. but somehow I like the new lugs & the absence of crown guard. cheers

For me it has to be the 5231G

 
 By: sham1 : August 16th, 2022-14:24
Not just because of its rarity but the 5230P I found a tad too heavy even though the dial is simply gorgeous. The 5930P is too thick and heavy but the 5231G is perfect in every sense. And yes, I have expressed my interest on one but will not be holding my... 

Cool!

 
 By: amanico : August 17th, 2022-04:29

THE GREEN IS EXOTIC

 
 By: vicunaman1 : August 16th, 2022-15:21
PP WT's 'keep on truckin' !!!!

👍

 
 By: vicunaman1 : August 16th, 2022-20:31

Haven’t seen any of them live.

 
 By: FRAMII : August 16th, 2022-18:38
But my ranking would be; 5231G, 5230P and then the 5390P. Fram

Yes 👍

 
 By: FRAMII : August 16th, 2022-22:36

✅✅

 
 By: Michael Reilly : August 30th, 2022-23:54
As I posted, I got the new blue on blue. I love it . I had the blue chronograph w time, gave. To my son.

5231G ..

 
 By: chris7509 : September 1st, 2022-15:56
5231G for the enamel dial every day . The only grief i have with the new 5231G reference is the massive price bump it has been having compared to the previous version 5231J ... about 15K€ this is massive Despite this i have put myself on the list .. wait ...  

I have my idea ...

 
 By: chris7509 : September 2nd, 2022-07:37
I believe that the initial version 5231J was too much of a "bargain" compared to 2nd hand prices hence the massive uplift that we are seeing now . Beyond this i do not get as they can filter their customer as much as they want on such models.

Well..

 
 By: chris7509 : September 2nd, 2022-12:51
Today after yesterday pump ... 5231G=83 600€ . My 5231J (so same watch, different gold color) back in November 2019=66 870€ My 5320G - Perpetual calendar in November 2017=> 75 100€ ( today it is 89 200€ ) I guess this is enough to say that yes they are cl... 

?? i did not get your question

 
 By: chris7509 : September 2nd, 2022-15:17