5050 and 5059 use 315 movement...

Aug 25, 2019,12:57 PM
 

while 5159 and the current retrograde perpetual use 324 movement. There must be some improvement but I'm not sure what it is.

Early version of 5050 has problem with stuck date but they have all being fixed. No such issues heard once the 5050 had returned to Patek for a new fitting.
I had owned 3 5050 before and all of them run well. 315 movement is very robust and I would expect 324 to be even better.

I just found this online. replied from Patek.

Dear Sir,


We thank you for your mail we received via our Website.


Kindly note hereafter our reply to your questions :


1. New Caliber 324


Kindly note that our Caliber 315 SC will progressively be replaced by the Caliber 324 SC AIG.S - an improved movement, and this is forseen as of April 2008.

It is possible that some 324 Calibers has already been mounted in some models. 
For the end user there is no difference in terms of accuracy and reliability between the Calibre 315 and the Cal. 324. The advantage of the Calibre 324 vs. the Cal. 315 is a gain in efficiency and time in terms of our watchmakers’ work as it is easier to time the calibre 324 to the Patek Philippe high precision standards.


For your information, only the referende 5127 willl remain equipped with the Caliber 315 for the time being. Patek Philippe does not divulge the information about quantities of Aquanaut delivered with cal. 315.


Sincerely yours,

NORTHERN EUROPE



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Patek 5050 Revisit

 
 By: CL : August 24th, 2019-06:11
Patek 5050, to me, is the most understated perpetual calender that bears a similar desirability to Patek 3448 and 3450. The dial design is uncluttered and minimalist for a retrograde perpetual. Its case design is also very simple with no intention to stea...  

A modern and all time classic

 
 By: dmas : August 24th, 2019-06:44
The watch is very understated and legible, unlike the 3940 type of sub-dials, thus appears uncomplicated. It was first introduced sometime in 1993 after a lapse of many decades (likely 60 years) and at that time only 5016 had the similar feature. Though s... 

When it comes to retrograde perpetual

 
 By: CL : August 24th, 2019-07:15
there's no competition indeed. Similar to 3940, a legendary classic.

Fully agree

 
 By: lascases : August 24th, 2019-09:51
Most relevant to the history of Patek. Also, next to the thickness the piece is also quite heavy, much more substance than a 3940. A beautiful piece, in JG and RG particularly.

Thick?

 
 By: ID1972Sr : August 24th, 2019-10:31
5050 is my holy grail and I was able to secure one full set last year. When compared to 3940, which I used to have, it is definitely thicker, due to the full rotor vs micro, central seconds vs no seconds hand, apertures and discs vs subdials. Is this an i... 

Definitely not an issue :)

 
 By: CL : August 24th, 2019-11:42
There is a no fuss vibe which I really love.

Another image of this beauty :-)

 
 By: CL : August 25th, 2019-05:27
I do like the 3940 very much but I have a slight preference of 5050 because I'm aware that the watch is 'alive' and the automatic rotor is functioning when I see the second hand ticking away. ...  

Perfect

 
 By: dmas : August 25th, 2019-05:36
on your wrist. The dial layout looks so simple and understated yet it is a grand complication. Legibility is without doubt better than 3940 especially when age is catching up.

Yes, you are correct.

 
 By: CL : August 25th, 2019-05:40
I have great difficulty reading the dial on 3940. Age...sigh

Beautiful and elegant [nt]

 
 By: watch-er : August 25th, 2019-07:13

It would be interesting to know how the movement has been changed

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : August 25th, 2019-11:28
over the three versions to this date. I read sonewhere that the 5159 has got a reworked calendar module. Is there anybody knowing more? Back to this 5050: it is a very classic Patek from a to z. Size, thickness and complication is what Patek stands for. I... 

5050 and 5059 use 315 movement...

 
 By: CL : August 25th, 2019-12:57
while 5159 and the current retrograde perpetual use 324 movement. There must be some improvement but I'm not sure what it is. Early version of 5050 has problem with stuck date but they have all being fixed. No such issues heard once the 5050 had returned ... 

The very first releases had some rare instances with the Retrograde Calendar

 
 By: watch-er : August 11th, 2023-12:54
sticking. In talking with PP service when I had a 5059 serviced, they said that issue was quickly resolved. But perhaps a movement change was made somewhere along the line.

Wonderful pictures of an all time classic

 
 By: alphabeta81 : August 28th, 2019-22:28
I agree with your praise and description of the importance of the 5050. My collection will always have one. To me one of the most important Pateks ever made, and yet so under appreciated at the moment which makes it even more charming to me.

+1

 
 By: lascases : August 29th, 2019-01:05
One of the best. Never gets boring to use it from time to time.

324SC

 
 By: watch-er : July 21st, 2023-23:49
beats at 28.800 VPH over the 315 at 21.600 VPH. PR is slightly longer on the 315. 324 may all be PP sealed. 315 are Geneva sealed.

good !

 
 By: anaroku : August 13th, 2023-22:56
5050 is the fine number for both watches and cars ...