Patek Philippe

thanks for your responses below to my query. I went to the web, and found that the most prevalent watches for sale by the grey dealers currently are the models of SS 5712 and 5980. It's too bad that these prices are all high (ie more than MSRP). However, ... 

just a nickname for those professional / semi-professional watch flippers. They have no interest in the watch. They buy the watch from AD just for immediate profit by flipping it. They will not keep the watch as it is risky (no matter how hot the watch is... 

is completely open, unembarrassed. unashamed greed, with no apology at all. One AD who asked for big $$$ over list on a watch told me 'how to pay' him so that Patek "wouldn't know." In another conversation, he tells me in the most glib manner that "Patek ... 

My local AD, who is one of the largest Patek resellers in the midwest cannot even get one of these mentioned pieces. I have tried to order a 5004 from them and the best they can tell me is that Patek has it on order - it may take 1-5 years for production.... 

People can charge whatever price they want. I think most of the people on this forum would flip a watch if they could make a $10,000.00 profit. It's just human nature. It's funny, no one seems to complain when an AD sells a watch at a deep discount. How d... 

What our real collector can do is: not buy hot items from grey dealers... Just my 2 cents

thanks fellow purists for your frank responses. The multiple points of view are enlightening. At the end, my take for this is to do business with a good, honest AD, and develop a long-term relationship, avoiding grey dealers. PP distributors in turn may h...