I purchased the 5165 a few months ago, primarily because I passed up the option to buy a 5167 a week earlier. As a new watch collector, I think it offers a lot. It's subtle, durable and certainly not heavy. There was an interesting post a few months back ...
I also own the 5065, but the newer 5165/7 series are such an improvement - strap, face etc... Personally though, I prefer the 5165 as the 5167 has this annoying white half-marker on the dial where the date appears. Makes it look as if the watch was desgne...
i bought one new and will be here tuesday... excited, especially since im in love with my AP jumbo.. hopefully patek jumbo is similar in how it wears/feels..