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I am unfortunately a bit more skeptic and long ago dismissed the little old mother daughter Swiss elves working at
The dead of night producing 20 dials a year. Firstly you don’t fire one dial at a time...they done in batches....also this is a business. Purely from my AD perspective they received 2 G 1 J and 2 R over the entire period. Roughly a watch every two years. Multiply that by the number of AD and add the salons and you get a number. However I have also been told that 1500 were made of each metal but that I can’t prove. Lastly if you see how they are churning out the 5231J compared to previous iterations....it shows that they can ramp up production if they desire...or they have a few more Swiss elves
5131R/5131G production number?
Hi guys A quick one, a dealer has been telling me the number of production for 5131R is about 1xx? I know Patek would never release the actual number, but just wondering if any truth to it?
I would say
absolutely no truth in it. I would expect production numbers of the each of the 5131 variants to be between 350 and 500 pieces. Gordon Lau is an authority in this area and I am sure he will provide a better insight.
I am unfortunately a bit more skeptic and long ago dismissed the little old mother daughter Swiss elves working at
The dead of night producing 20 dials a year. Firstly you don’t fire one dial at a time...they done in batches....also this is a business. Purely from my AD perspective they received 2 G 1 J and 2 R over the entire period. Roughly a watch every two years. ...
The R was only in production for only 3 years. Each year with a different city ring. 001, 010 and 011. I would suggest from simply followings incomings that the first year was the lowest supply.
Production period for the R was much shorter than the Y and J and shorter even than the P. As to numbers, who knows. 🤷♂️
Russell, as I said..I am the eternal sceptic...this is a business and the Sterns are in it for the money. They also Swiss so they will know the production numbers down to a
Single digit and exactly which days/ weeks of any year that a particular watch will be in production. The limiting factor was always (apparently) the dials....the cases and movements can be churned out as can the city chapter rings....so the cynic in me d...
Member DOCSF provided a link to an earlier thread on this topic.
In the above thread, l wrote and still believe today regarding the numbers previously mentioned: My understanding is that there are now two teams that make the enamel dials. I estimate that each week only one enamel dial can be made (due to wastage during...
Thanks Gordon
Any idea about the 5231J production numbers so far. How many teams working on dials etc. It appears to me they are producing more 5231Js compared to 5131s. My AD who is a small family owned AD has received 2 pieces so far
DOCSF, Assuming there are still two teams, the production should ...
still be around 100 pieces per year. Since only J has been produced for the two years, I would presume 200 and perhaps if efficiency has improved, 300 pieces thus far. This range is naturally just a personal guess.
Thanks, this is an interesting topic even though I believe we already discussed it a few times and it's difficult to be more precise. Nobody has the official numbers, though I recall I casually had this conversations with people at Patek in the past.
What I'm pretty sure about is the number of 5131 dials produced for each of the four metals is more or less in the same ballpark. The fact that some 5131 iterations lasted less (R and P) does not necessarily imply production was also less, as these things...
No problem. I can tell you for a fact that, at least in general, dealers (assuming you mean watch dealers ;-)) hardly have access to certain information.
Like anybody else, they can obviously make educated guesses (and in this instance, that was the best I could do too!), but for many things ADs are necessarily the last to receive information directly from the brand. As for the 5131s, I can't imagine more ...