Patek Philippe

Just love the Pulsations scale on this classic looking dial...  

The best looking 5170 of the lot even though I am normal partial to rose gold Best wishes, Sham

Best wishes Alkiro

Enjoy your watch. Its a joy to own. Much pleasure to wear. Cheers.

It was a bit... bare compared to the 5070. Then, as time goes by and I keep seeing it, I think I may have made a big mistake. It is so elegant and simple. Granted, I prefer the black dial, but the white is by far the most elegant and, IMO, will hold up be... 

If you are really keen on the 5170G, I have seen quite a few for sale at Patek ADs in London which is becoming an increasingly attractive place this week to buy a Patek. Sorry for the sales pitch! Best wishes, Sham

But I have somehow moved on. The 5170 is now in the 'the one that got away' category. But, I have other plans...

I know a new 5170g will run around $50-60 k now, but no idea on the prices of 5070.

....but if it was a straight swap on price, the 5070 rules for me. Both nice though.

They both have their strenghts, I just don\'t know.

5070 is a Patek icon......5170 is not.

But I would add \'maybe some day\'.

but could you explain to me why is the 5070 an icon as compared to a 5170 especially as the 5170 has a Patek movement? I have read here on how iconic the 5070 is but perhaps I am missing the point because looking at both watches, the 5170 looks better to ... 

Being an \'icon\', I would say if pressed, is something people covet and see as a true representation of what the manufacture is and/or stands for, and also of the sheer demand. I believe in the case of 5070 / 5170 it is a question of time. The 5070 is no... 

I think there are many reasons that the 5070 is an icon. If you read the history of the watch and how collectors over the years have come to view it, you will see it is a watch that is very highly coveted. I was at a Patek factory visit last year and even... 

for clarifying why the 5070 is considered iconic but I am hoping that a watch does not become iconic only because it is produced in limited numbers but because of something special about it be the its movement, dial or its association to a previous model ... 

from my perspective, the 5970 would be my choice between those two.....doesn't make me right and you wrong...just a difference in our respective personal tastes..... Rarity in itself is irrelevant......supply relative to demand, however, is a determinant ... 

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Although it's a beautiful piece, the fact is, collectors want rarity above all - after all, that's the number one way of retaining value - and I'll stick my neck out here, if the 5170 was produced in the same numbers of the 5070, you'd have the same hyste... 

Picasso...on the other hand....was prolific. ......yet, Picasso's iconicism (and my lack of artistic status) is not in doubt. It isn't "just" rarity.

But, as I read the comments, one thing that is common is that there is not just 1 single thing that makes a watch iconic. It is a combination of factors, and even then, not everyone will hold that opinion.

But it does help if it is a Patek or Ferrari rarity!

and suits your wrist.

and this shot precisely puts aside the color that we can't see here. Hence, we can focus on the other elements: the numerals' thickness and style, the way the dial is build etc... The more I see it.... erf.

Here are 2 posts I made in the past about the 5070 (and 5170). www.watchprosite.com www.watchprosite.com As Baron said, no real definition but the success a watch has encountered over time is certainly one of the few hints helping making a... 

and this is certainly due to the thinner, more refined and classical case of the 5170: less visible. It is there to support the dial. In the 5070 I would say it is a significant part of hte watch, working together with the dial (and the beautiful bezel!).... 

This is exactly what I meant.

the hands of the black 5170G, it would be perfect. Best, Kari

The charm, the style I prefer and the scales... The balance between Breguet numerals and the decoration of the dial are gorgeous and very discreet. It is a classical Chronograph at its best IMHO. Beautiful shot by the way Enjoy it! Cheers, Mark

Thanks guys for your kind remarks I am sure the debate between the 5070 and 5170 will live long, however I am more than happy with this classic looking very wearable and discreet time piece Thanks for looking have a great weekend

The white dial and white gold are indeed understated. This watch flies under the radar when viewed from afar. When one gets a good look at it, it hits you that this is a special piece. That is what I love about many of the Patek watches; They are understa...