Agree that 5167R is definitely handsome - rose gold with deep brown face quite attractive in person - pictures do not do it justice.
Rubber strap is limiting.......would prefer option for switch out to leather strap to make it more versatile. Not sure that this is possible.
I never bought 5167 because I liked it, didn't love it.........and when you are only in "like", the price/value question becomes more relevant. And there is no arguing that at $28k or so, plus 9% sales tax in CA, it is pricey for a simple watch.