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3940J - advice on an (early) 3rd series model
Hi all,
For the past few months, I have been looking on-off for a mint-condition 3940J/G to purchase. I don't usually buy pre-owned but since this reference was discontinued over 10 years ago, this's the only option. My main criteria is that it must come as a complete set (COG, box, stylus etc). I've looked at the 5140 but the dial looks 'off' to me hence my preference for the older one.
I've just across a 3940J model with the COG dated 1990. The 1st series was produced from 1985-87 and 2nd from 1987-89 and this is an early 3rd series. It only has a solid case back (as per consistent with that period) and it comes with an optional deployant (the older square style). The watch was recently serviced. Price-wise it is consistent with later 3rd series models that include the sapphire case back and deployant as standard. This reference was one of the longest production models with a run of ~16 years but being an early one, i'm unsure if that somehow makes it more collectible.
Obviously, the 1st and 2nd series dials are rarer and more collectible. So my question is whether I should:
- get this since it's an early 3rd series
- get a later 3rd series with sapphire case back and deployant
- hold out for a 1st or 2nd series
My gut feel is that I ought to pass but any advice or suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
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3940J - advice on an (early) 3rd series model
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Thanks. I get that the earlier ones are preferred. But
if one were to stick with a third series dial, given it was in production for so long, is there any intrinsic value for an earlier one (produced say in the 1st year, 1990) vs a later one (say 2000)?
First of all...
...welcome here ! It is always a pleasure to welcome a new member and if he arrives just at the edge of the new year and is a Patek aficionado it can be only a good sign ! To come back to your question, I cannot tell you what is good or bad or tell you wh...
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Thanks for your kind words and detailed reply Mike. One downside with the 3940P is that it only comes with solid case back. For a newbie like me, I likes the sapphire back so I can view the movement: chuckle.
There is no harm with liking a sapphire case back ;)
In that case I would go for a R or a G version. Both are stunning... I actually owned G, R, and P in my horological journey and R and P are the 2 ones that made my heart beat faster, so if P is out for you choice becomes obvious... . Good luck with your c...
I would not think too much how collectible the watch is.
In all versions 3940 is a wonderful watch to wear. I would go for a version with two case backs and correct deployment buckle. Have you checked the red gold version? Even I'm not a big fan of coloured metals, 3940R is stunning. Best, Kari
Indeed!
Ref. 3940 is not a big collectors' item but a fantastic watch to wear. An iconic perpetual calendar regardless the version. Best, Kari
Amazing photo amazing watch!
Every time I see this picture I get goose bumps. It is the best pic of this reference I have ever seen. Happy New Year. CB
When you say it’s not a big collectors’ item
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