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I didn’t know, and you probably did not either.

 
 By: robert10 : November 25th, 2021-17:40


When I discovered FP Journe's watches I could immediately see that they were both very special, fantastic and unlike anything else I have seen before, and I learned what Invenit et Fecit meant and thought it was a fantastic credo that collects the man, his amazing ideas and his sublime craftsmanship.


Later I learned that F.P. Journe probably chose his credo but he did not invent it. However, it takes nothing from F.P.Journe, on the contrary it shows that his work is not only special and amazing but also has deep roots in the horological history.


I found the phrase Invenit et Fecit on dials and calibers dating back to the 1700s. 


Now I'm guessing, but F.P. Journe may have seen the term back in the time when he worked in his uncle's watch workshop, I know from the F.P Journe´s book that there were watches made by Jean-Antoine Lépine in the uncle's workshop.


For your pleasure, I have attached four pictures that show the frase Invenit et Fecit used over time


1. Jean-Antoine Lépine -1788

2. George Margetts ca. 1800

3. Urban Jürgensen 1843

4. Derek Pratt 1991 (Pocket Watch for Urban Jürgensen)





Pictures

 
 By: robert10 : November 25th, 2021-17:40










Thanks for the very interesting and informative post, Robert 👍🙏

 
 By: Ivan5 : November 25th, 2021-18:12

Great discovery

 
 By: Weems@8 : November 25th, 2021-18:09
Nice credo.

Good detective work!

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : November 25th, 2021-18:18

Thanks for sharing. Indeed the direct inspiration for use of the phrase was from other French watchmakers who used the same phrase in the 18th century.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : November 25th, 2021-20:23
His intention, as it was those hundreds of years ago, in using this phrase was to clearly identify that he had conceived the movement.


Thank you😊

 
 By: robert10 : November 25th, 2021-21:33
Would you know the name of the french watchmaker.?

It was used, as Jay says, by watch makers to say they had conceived the movement and manufactured it,

 
 By: ChristianDK : November 25th, 2021-22:15
There are several abbreviations of the spelling n variations samples. I think if you google around you can find more on the subject.

Also you can do a forum search. Several old posts on the subject worth a look.

Best
Christian 

Thanks Christian 😊

 
 By: robert10 : November 26th, 2021-09:07
Thanks for pointing out the search feature, I'm a beginner when it comes to WatchProSite. I will definitely spend many hours here. I can see that there are several fantastic posts regarding the Remontoir de d`Egalité. Looking forward to the weekend

I don’t, it was a general quote by Francois-Paul in a magazine article in the early 2000s. Here’s the quote.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : November 25th, 2021-23:07

“Invenit et Fecit was the inscription that 18th Century French horologers engraved on their pocket watches, once their movements were recognized as original and recorded by the Royal Academy of Sciences. Since I only use new calibres of my own invention, I decided to use this Latin phrase that clearly indicates the origin of my movements. Still, I don't pretend to be a 'manufacture'. Moreover, there is not a single veritable and complete 'manufacture' in Switzerland. But, at least Invenit et Fecit offers a clear indication in a world that is becoming more and more confused by the definition of what is an original movement.”

Source : Europastar

Thank you, Jay.

 
 By: ChristianDK : November 26th, 2021-05:26

Thank you Jay 👍🏻

 
 By: robert10 : November 26th, 2021-07:28