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Brass is back!
I personally love the fact that FP decided to bring it back, I see it as a chance for young collectors to obtain such a rarity, it shows respect from the brand to its collectors. Please share your thoughts on it.
+1. They make over a thousand 5711s a year... It's not a rare watch at all. In fact, the 5712 is probably rarer than a 5711!
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True.
As some people who just got into the brand are faced with no option other than heading to the grey market, this is an amazing second chance for them to get a brass movement.
I would bet that the "average" newcomer to the brand will not have a chance to own one of these.
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These are probably already sold and will not be available to anyone who is new to the brand.
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It differs.
I did not mean an average new comer with no pieces from Journe. I meant the people who started collecting after the brass era.
I am torn on this one.
I never liked the original because of the date, I don’t like any of the current Lune or Divine references because of the inclusion of the date. I will concede that the date looks better to me in the current iterations, but I still am not a fan of the overall aesthetic.
But, this is one of the original foundations of the brand’s collection. And if one is a Journe collector then I could argue this watch should be part of that collection.
Some might say it silly to buy something you don’t love, and maybe don’t even like.
Naaa, not silly...
But Why buy something you dont like, even if youre a collector. I would never do that!
I agree and disagree
Keeping in mind that I have not always thought like this, I don’t think someone should get a watch and justify the purchase for the sake of adding it to the collection.Or else every collection of a huge collector would be the same. The personal touch is what makes it special, a person’s collection should be a reflection of himself, what he likes and dislikes. That’s why it’s always interesting to sit with a fellow collector and explore their watches.
Unfortunately those with the "personal touch" are in the minority these days and that doesn't exclude Journe collectors.
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Of course, and I fear this watch will go the way of some others (in terms of buyers reason to acquire it).
My point, as I elaborated on above was a whole other alternative rationale for buying something. Solely because it completes or is core to a larger collection. Alone, it’s not interesting but as part of the group it’s appealing.
Exactly! It's almost funny to see so many collectors with such similar collections...
It used to be funny when it was Panerai and Rolex. Everyone had the same Panerais, Rolexes, and so on. Now, it's still the same, everyone has the same things, Nautilus, Rolex GMT and Daytona, and some Patek Philippe perpetual calendar or WorldTime... Breguets are really underappreciated!
Well said. I might seem close-minded, but if someone does not appreciate Breguet. They should hit the books and understand what is watchmaking..
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I'm even more close minded than you are... If someone does not appreciate Breguet, they should be hit on the head with a book about Breguet until they do!
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For sure the differences are what makes a collection or a collector interesting. But...
...I think it’s a valid position to hold as a collector that sometimes a decision is made for the sake of the collection. In this case I was suggesting some will see it necessary to add this piece in order to fill a place in the collection. I don’t think one needs to like the specific watch to appreciate its position (and necessity) in the larger collection.
For me, I don’t have the means to ensure “complete” collections. It was (is) a thought that came to mind however in this case because 1) I don’t like the reference much and 2) I wondered about it’s place in a Journe collection (or it’s necessity).
For me, I don’t have the means to ensure “complete” collections. It was (is) a thought that came to mind however in this case because 1) I don’t like the reference much and 2) I wondered about it’s place in a Journe collection (or it’s necessity).