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Submariner - Date or no date
I'm looking at buying my first Submariner (plain steel one, black dial), from the early-mid 00s, but I'm torn between date or no date. I think I prefer it without the date, but was wondering if one if definitely better to buy than the other? Also the no date one I have seen doesn't have the 'superlative chronometer officially certified' bit on the dial. Is that a major issue or not?
I would appreciate any comment on this to help me decide.
I would appreciate any comment on this to help me decide.
I've owned multiple Subs and a Sea Dweller...
I've recently retired and just purchased a new COSC 14060M as a present to myself. Since most of my days are all mine, I could care less what date it is. When I worked in a professional environment, knowing the date was as important as knowing the time. I much prefer the lines of the no-date Sub, but that's just me...
can't go wrong
either watch you get, date or ND, they are both great. I ended up buying both in the end.
Only the newest ND subs have the CSOC writing on the dial. Some prefer without as it makes for a cleaner look.
you _may_ get use to having no date...!
prior to getting my sub, i had been very very adamant about having the day and date on my watches; a date at minimum. in fact, triple date preferred and perpetual calendar always if i had it my way... as a corollary, i had dismissed any thoughts of ever owning any watch without a date function (including the rolex chronograph and submariner).
this was further reinforced when i read through the recurring posts on various rolex forums: "should i buy a sub or sub date?"
the posts usually generate replies such as:
o spend a little more and get the sub date and don't look back.
o spend a little more so you don't look so cheap.
o buy it if you can live without the date.
o the bracelet is awful, the watch is over-rated, don't buy a rolex, ever. buy a [insert another watch make/model here] instead.
o buy whichever sub you prefer on your wrist.
o the sub is awesome as it is (i'm fair!), and does not need a date/cyclop.
then one day, i received a 14060M as a present - it turned out to be one of the most comfortable watches i've ever worn, and now that i live in tropical asia, it is almost always on my wrist (replacing a triple date zenith el primero).
in fact, i like it so much (bracelet and all) that when mine was lost on a dive boat, i called my AD long distance to set one aside and collected it shortly after landing at the airport.
what does this mean to me?
o by making an effort to remember today's date and day, i keep better track of time.
o i am more adaptable than i thought.
o slowly, the daytona is calling out to me (uh oh).
in retrospect, the sub would have been a permanent part of my watch collection a long time ago had i been less "discriminatory."
what does this mean to you?
don't dismiss a (any) watch simply because you feel or because someone tells you that "something else is better" - first try it out for yourself before deciding if it suits you.
as you're unlikely to take a big hit if you flipped the sub, this means you can buy it, wear it, and perhaps trade it in towards a sub date later if you're truly unable to wear a watch without a date.
this was further reinforced when i read through the recurring posts on various rolex forums: "should i buy a sub or sub date?"
the posts usually generate replies such as:
o spend a little more and get the sub date and don't look back.
o spend a little more so you don't look so cheap.
o buy it if you can live without the date.
o the bracelet is awful, the watch is over-rated, don't buy a rolex, ever. buy a [insert another watch make/model here] instead.
o buy whichever sub you prefer on your wrist.
o the sub is awesome as it is (i'm fair!), and does not need a date/cyclop.
then one day, i received a 14060M as a present - it turned out to be one of the most comfortable watches i've ever worn, and now that i live in tropical asia, it is almost always on my wrist (replacing a triple date zenith el primero).
in fact, i like it so much (bracelet and all) that when mine was lost on a dive boat, i called my AD long distance to set one aside and collected it shortly after landing at the airport.
what does this mean to me?
o by making an effort to remember today's date and day, i keep better track of time.
o i am more adaptable than i thought.
o slowly, the daytona is calling out to me (uh oh).
in retrospect, the sub would have been a permanent part of my watch collection a long time ago had i been less "discriminatory."
what does this mean to you?
don't dismiss a (any) watch simply because you feel or because someone tells you that "something else is better" - first try it out for yourself before deciding if it suits you.
as you're unlikely to take a big hit if you flipped the sub, this means you can buy it, wear it, and perhaps trade it in towards a sub date later if you're truly unable to wear a watch without a date.