Officine Panerai

Hi all,

I have been recently offered a lefty submersible Panerai PAM 358.

It is a special edition from some Parisian Boutique.

Anybody has a picture of it?

Thanks.

It is the new Panerai Chronopassion LE 100ex

No picture available right now.

Wait few days

HAGWE

Patrickh

I mean, I am a Panerai fan but in terms of collectibility, do you think I should?

If you like submarine Panerai, this one in 47mm, 1950 Luminor case, titanium, black dial, without date, LEFT-HANDED is VERY VERY NICE and for you.

Unfortunately, 47mm in Luminor case does not fit on my wrist, even if I wear a 47mm Radiomir.

I always buy a watch to be wear and not to stay in his box.

It is up to you.

Cheers,

Patrickh

 

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Panerai will probably eventually make a model similar to that one, so later on this PAM may not be as "collectible" as you think it may be since the combination of this piece isn't anything that special IMO.

That's just my 2 cents,
Anthony

That's the worst reason to get a watch...

You don't know if Panerai won't relelase it, and if you don't love it, what will you do with it?

Take it only if you love it.

Therefore, I don't see anything special to this watch.

But this is just my opinion.

Best,

Nicolas

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I've seen a description of it, and quite frankly, the differences with the existing 47mm subs are too few to make it compelling for me. I have a couple subs so wouldn't have a good reason to add this to the collection. Not to mention the hassle of going there just to get the watch...

plus...I haven't been proposed it anyway ;-)

 

 

I have been offered too  and all my friends  in Hongkong,Singapore, Thailand ,Japan and all my Panerisiti gang too .

Better not to buy it as I feel its like a RUSH,RUSH kind of sales and there is nothing special about it as I am asking for them a photo to be release to me before I buy it.

And its going to be no END to this kind of Sales Gimmicks .

I have too many Panerais in my collection as I prefer to Collect all the Patek or A.P now .

Its kind of a Pressured  type of sales as you have to be there in Paris to pay and collect it man.

And now  I am in Singapore .

its takes about 12 hours  to reach there in Paris .

Its kind of very Stupid marketing just ask all the Customer all over world just to go there and pay and collect it as I used to buy from this store in Paris  in the early nineties and they always charge it to you on  whatever cards you have and also they will  sent it to your door step by EMS too in the early nineties.

Now the BOSS of the store is giving a lot of Excuses like this and that  (claiming the accountant cannot agree to this and that   .

 If any Panerai's collectors want the watch we need to go to Paris  Just to Pay in there store and Collect it,Stupid ideas .

I am still Puzzle why must we go there and Pay since they charge to our cardsand collect it another times.

Guess they NEED the CASH FLOW Man !!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been buying watches since in the 70's  from all over Europe and I have never had a problem with paying through cards or bank transfer in any of those shops in Europe .

Even my First Class Suite ticket from SQ cost more than the watch .

Cheers

to all my Panerai Collector Bros.

Ciao

Happy Buying .

In reading some of the posters here and on other places, it appears that watch websites are being hijacked for capturing email addresses of Panerai posters.

Indeed, many people worldwide are receiving unsolicited emails about this watch.

If true, I find this practice totally inacceptable.

I would have preferred that the news for this kind of watches came from Panerai, directly, or from the shop owner, so that it can be presented in respectful approach.

At this point, I believe that this sort of approach jeopardizes the natural interest on this watch, the method be seen as forcing it to us.

There are watches that have set values.

Sometimes, it is because of their " rarity ", sometimes because of their History or Story.

But nobody can dictate high values and for sure, no sellers will reimburse the paid premiums.

So, guys, think logic, the watch is new, it is of an important diameter, and one hundred lefties is not easy as what it seems to place them.

Not forgetting that often, a small batch calls for more units to be released slightly differently.

OOR + OOR + a series of XXX /  1 000.

But I would welcome anybody who to come to Paris to visit me.

Your travelling money will  alaways be better invested in friendship!

A strange new world... BUT not cup of my tea.

Best,

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-04-15 00:44:25

Hi to All Panerai Lover, This is a Very Special Limted Edition By ChronoPassion in Paris . Its a Left Handed 2500m Submersible with Tritium dial ( T SWISS MADE T ). Only 100 sets Only WorldWide all sold out when they announced last year to all their VVIP customer worldwide only. I always remember all LeftHanded Panerai watches are always more expensive to made and also the after market value are always 2 to 4 times more . Those who owned it ,its going to flip at least 3 to 5 times the present price now in 1 to 5 years time . Its more like my Pam194 (Stripped Idicator Dial ) and Pam 285 (Dotted Indicator Dial) but only with a Left Hand winding Crown. For Those who were offered to this Special piece of Jewel are very ,very lucky to owned it for future investment. Cheers, Happy Days , Bugatti Veyron (Left hand Drive ) still in my Warehouse not registered yet , Singapore ,Hongkong and Japan This message has been edited by ManWithTaste on 2010-04-09 23:01:30 This message has been edited by ManWithTaste on 2010-04-09 23:05:21

Difference between a Pam 358 and Pam 194  are below as per explain:

Pam 358 does not have a date and the Only Submersible at 47mm  with a 9 numeral and its Left  handed Wind.Its comes  with a Vintage leather Strap .

Pam 194 has a date without the 9 numeral and its Right Hand Wind (47mm). It come with Rubber  strap and Extra Slot in Buckle with a Canvas Strap too.

Both are Tritium Dial (T SWISS MADE T ).

Compare both I guess the Pam 358 is going to FLIP very high in the Open  Watch Traders  market  as its  Limited to 100 sets worldwide  Only.

Maybe 3 to 5 times the Original Value MSRP price in Euros .

I have checked with a few Traders in Hongkong ,Taiwan ,Japan  and Singapore  and they  are  estimating   to be selling around 13k to 17k Euros if they can get hold of One of this Jewel piece from Paris as its Only for their VVIP  or those  very,very LUCKY walkin Customers Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!.if you can get hold of One!!!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.My friends from Italy and from UK  have try their luck but too BAD no luck man!!!!!!!!!!. this few days .

Good Luck to those who have collected their Pam 358 another Master piece from ChronoPassion with a Difference that Makes the Great Differences from the Rest .

The Simpler the Design of Panerai the more Collectable the Watch for future investment.

 

Ciao

Happy Days

Will be In Paris & Rome on 22th to 10th  of May for my  Italian Seafood  Rissotto and French Foie Gras LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Checking out some High End Kopi Tiam In Italy and French .

When I am Back I will updates to all of you in Singapore ,Hongkong ,Malaysia and those in Japan .

Cheers

Bugatti Veyron .

 

 

 

To correct, it's a L dial rather a T dial.

Cheers!

Nien

better wait for the hype to subside and it will pullback in prices like the 292.

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I think it's overpriced... wait for hype to subside. For 317 something like HKD 228,000. Sorry just living in Euro zone made a mistake.

It looks like lots of the PAMs have been shipped to the Orient.

It's just a regular watch with really nothing special IMO.  I see no hype with this watch.

- AT

Looking at the market in Asia as I am following for the past few months .To my experience ( for the past 35 years of watch collection ) I guess the Pam 358 prices will Flipping every month Higher and Higher until it reach their last distribution of the 100pcs.

Then I guess it may be selling way above between 17k Euros to 40k Euros even if the market is very soft.

As this is Really a Damn Sexy Classic Deep Ocean Monster Diver Watch  with a touch of Difference from the rest of the Automatic Submersible I have seen so Far until today .

Even a woman with a skinny wrist looks so beautiful on it but definitely one must have  long fingers and must talk enough to carry it .

This is really one hell of Killer Watch in which I feel it will be a long time investment for anyone who owns this Beast .

Definitely for me I will not sell it even If someone offer me 50k Euros ( as I do not need sell it to make profit  since I am a retired with enough saving for my next 9 generation Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!inherited a bit of Fortune and also some saving from my Great Great Grand Father .ha!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!)

Its going to be a long time  Classic Monster Diver Watch from Panerai using a Vajoux movement in which its has proven to be a workhorse mechanism for a very long time .

ChronoPassion know what is good design and also for  future Investment for all their  very Loyal and Good  Customers that has supported ChronoPassion all this years and  this  maybe part of their pay back time to their VVIP customers.

Keep it Up the good work and design !! !CHRONOPASSION !!!!!!Bravo!!!

Happy Days and Enjoy more of Panerai's Collection .

Cheers to all the Paneristi Gang In Singapore,Hongkong ,Japan ,Taiwan and Thailand

Bugatti Veyron

 

 

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