It is also nicely designed and still avery modern watch by its timeless and classic design. Accuracy with vintage omega calibers is phenomenal. I also have the Aqua Terra predecessor which dates back from 1969 seamaster ref 168022-168028 with cal 564
and a1968 seamaster ref 1663032-168023 (same watch than the one above but with 751)
The next Omega step for me is to get the 1968 seamaster's dial restored to what it was orginally and fully serviced, I also have two other Omega heirlooms that are at my watchmaker, so when I will have them back, I will post pics of them
Have a great week
regards
Georges
I saw the HM7 in real at the last SIHH and... it's HUGE (both case size and thickness). More an artistic timepiece rather than a wearable one like this Omega in my opinion
I have never seen the HM7 in real but I could imagine its huge dimension. I agree with you that it has a very small wearability.
By: Freccero : July 11th, 2017-10:22
However at a level of design for me it is just stunning, I love the shape, the idea of putting the tourbillon in a extremely prominent position and the way in which the hour is showed. I think that the HM7 represents very well the philosophy of MB&F. Best.
it is an Omega icon and a killer value for money and indeed far less common than the Subs, the Datejust or Daytona I see almost every day
By: georgeszaslavsky : July 11th, 2017-08:35
And for the anedocte, the last time I was waiting for friends before entering and having in one of my favorite restaurants, I have seen a lot of bystanders sporting Subs, Datejusts and Sea Dwellers. Even the vintage Sea Dwellers are far more common than the Plo Profs. Omega is a true WIS brand.
You are right, nowadays Rolex in my humble opinion have lost part of fascination among true collectors because represents not only a watch brand but also a symbol of luxury often acquired by people (not always!) that does not care about watches and just
By: Freccero : July 11th, 2017-10:40
Want to show that they belong to a wealthy social level. If today I should buy a Rolex I would definitely go for vintage (despite all the risks), because vintage Rolexes are among the most iconish and beautiful watches one can find ( do not need to list every model). Talking about Omega I would say that it will remain (hopefully) a true watch brand and not a symbol of wealthy and richness. Best.
This is absolutely true and I can only agree with your post.
By: georgeszaslavsky : July 11th, 2017-10:57
Also what I do appreciate with vintage OMEGAS is that they don't draw attention and that remain discrete.Fact is that Omega vintage is relatively affordable compared to other brands. Since 2006 when Rolex went with wider cases, the brand has lost some of its finesse.I can wear maximum to 44mm but with the new sub and more with the new deepsea sea dweller, it is like wearing a portable hammer on the wrist.I also remember a discussion when I had at FAM (forum à montres) GTG many many years ago. Some people wondered why I didn't have a Rolex, I told them that I was and still am a modest collector and that there are several other significant watch brands to collect and which offered much more interesting and rarer pieces than Rolexes.I hope that I will meet some day other French Purists at a GTG.Rolex vintage and pre 2006 models are the way to go but I will have to hunt hard to find one at a decent price, I am not going to pay premiums just because a dealer wants to make some profit on my back. Some people make credit to buy their watches, I don't and never will. I prefer to buy right when I have the funds, the right opportunity and of course at the right moment.
Yes, in my opinion Rolex will lost more and more buyers among collectors because as watches aficionados they know other brands, surely more interesting and do not want to pay absurd amounts of money (yes, for me Rolex's prices are becoming just crazy!!)
By: Freccero : July 11th, 2017-11:42
For something many many people have. They will probably spend their money or maybe even spend more on a less known brand. Personally I would feel angry if after buying a Rolex I would be put on the same level of somebody, who does not care about watches at all. This not because I am a snob but because I do not like people, who acquire something only to show their social status. For this reason I think that Rolex betrayed some of its intrinsic values because also Omega could improve its annual production but they are simply not interested. Best.
Same for Patek, don't you think? Anyway, Vintage Rolex are a world apart, me think. There will still be, and more and more, people who will fall for vintage Rolex. [nt]
Good point Amanico, however one must specify one thing that is important, only the wealthy collectors can buy vintage Rolex now
By: georgeszaslavsky : July 11th, 2017-21:38
And since the price raise of the prices of Rolex vintage timepieces and the Rolex bubble since the 2000's, due to the Internet, because of the auction houses who are ready to maximize their profits even by selling watches in average condition at unresonable and unrealistic values and because of watch blogs, it has become very very complicated if not impossible for the average and modest collector to afford one. Patek is haute horlogerie, Rolex isn't. Rolex makes a formidable luxury watch that offers a lot for the money. Now, I am sorry to say that some dealers are speculating with vintage Rolex and because of this, it will be hard for me and for many others to get one at a realistic unflated price.So as much as I like Rolex vintage timepieces, the unreasonable pricing of their vintage timepieces, I don't like it that much. Patek watches are rare, Rolex watches were built in big numbers back then. For me it will be a matter of luck,opportunity and a long time before I can buy one.
All the vintage Rolex are not unaffordable. You can get a nice 1675, 16750 for a still human price, same for the 1016, or Explorer II 1655 ( even though a bit higher in price ). [nt]
Vintage Rolex prices will raise more and more so if one wants a vintage Rolex he should in my opinion buy now because although prices are not low they are still human. In some years we will see those still affordable raising to absurd prices.
By: Freccero : July 12th, 2017-05:20
Another problem with vintage Rolexes is due to the large demand. Many times they have non-original parts so one have to be very focused and should have a big knowledge about what is going to buy. Best.
Yes also Patek should be aware that they are the only kings anymore. There are many other brand well designed and technically exceptional.
By: Freccero : July 12th, 2017-05:14
Among traditional watchmaking brands the most important Patek's opponent is for sure Lange, which in my opinion have surpassed Patek in terms of design and movements-detailing for this reason I think that the holy trinity should be re-discussed.
Yes, as you said, vintage Rolexes will always have a special appeal because most of them are really beautiful. Best.