Wow, that is good stuff!
Let alone the great quality pictures.
Chronometry is one of the things I like most about watches and clocks because this is what they are about in the end. So I have been waiting for this article since you first announced it. Thank you so much for this feature and for all the work you put into it
BTW: I need to see a Geophysic in nature.
Again thank you and best,
Martin
Nicolas.....
.......Ud se lo merece caballero, impresionante su estudio!!
In my days when sailing the Chronometer are essential and without their accuracy could be here or there and sometimes beyond of track was very very ...bad!
All the best My friend!
Juan
Gracias, una vez mas. Completemante de acuerdo con la necesidad de precision. [nt]
Accuracy is everything, I totally agree with that, Martin.
Aaah, if you want to see a Geophysic in the real, I think it will soon be possible...
Thanks for your words of encouragement, my friend.
Nicolas
Thanks for such a fantastic informative post Nicolas! Will we be tested on this? [nt]
Of course, on next Monday! :)
This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-04-08 21:27:35
This essay will serve as a reference post for many years to come!
Concise and exhaustive – very impressive, Nicolas!
The only question that lingers: why did JLC mark only some of the 24000-42s as “CHRONOMETRE” on their dials but not all of them – extrapolating from the pictures that can be accessed on the web it might even be just a minority of these chronometers that were marked as such on their dials. I still do not have any idea how to explain this inconsistency.
Best,
Christian
I see what you mean...
You saw the mention Chronometer on the 24 000 only on the Master Mariner dial configuration, maybe?
This is the only configuration I saw with this mention on the dial. Not on the earlier 24 000, the one I posted.
The MM 24 000 came in 1974, this is what I believe. So not an inconsistency, but rather a different dial.
Best, Christian, and thank you so uch for the nice compliment!
Nicolas.
Well, my 24000-42-165 is just ...
... a handfull of digits from Ilja's (pictured in Zaf's book) with respect to case numbers making the case about 300 digits younger than the one you show in your post. Further the movement is about 250 Digits older than the one you show in your post. Still mine has the CHRONOMETRE imprint on the dial. Thus I conclude: with the watches being so close featuring the CHRONMOMETRE imprint does not seem to be a matter of earlier and later production.
Cheers,
Christian
Do you have doubts about what I said?
Cheers,
Naaah! The only 24000 I saw with the mention Chronometer on the dial was
The Master Mariner version. The same than mine with this mention, I never saw! Wow!
Best, and thanks, Christian!
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-04-09 14:20:43There may be a misunderstanding ...
Different? In which way? Now don't tell me that ...
... the Master Mariner has the CHRONOMETRE imprint!
;-)
Btw.: the Master Mariner 24000 in the 1975 blue/white catalog does not have the imprint.
Christian
a guess (updated)
So maybe the lack of Chronometre imprint on dial is a sign of region the watch was originally sold.
But I doubt to find enough origin details since watches tend to go trough several hands before ending -for a periode of time- in a collection.
But that's just a guess, not even an educated one.
Follow up:
Having a nearly complete 70s dealers catalog next to me, the pages for all 3 Chronometre from the Master Mariner line show no Chronometre imprint on the dials. The Catalog is of Swiss origin. Pages dated 6.75
Btw, the usage of saphire crystal, as Nico mentions, is wrong it is in fact mineral.
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Could be an explanation, but ...
statistics...
I made some amazing discoveries regarding the (J)LC Weems using statistics, but will -if ever- publish them with British Horological Journal.
From the given production figures for the 24000 we can conclude it was by far not a best seller, so this circumstand has to be taking into account as well.
Doesn't Mehltreter's 24000 having an Arabian seal thingy on the dial? Another factor in this calculation mess.
Please explain.
JLC had several lines of watches in the 70's. ie De Luxe, Vogue, Memovox, Master Mariner, Club and Quartz-Electronic (named Master Quartz).
For educational purpose here the link to Mehltretter's Article fom 2003. (PDF)
So, you got me well. Look at the author's watch, it doesn't have totally the same dial. [nt]
To my eye that difference just seems to be ...
... a Saudi Arabian emblem by the 9 (crossed swords and a Palm tree).
Looks like Mehltretter's 24000-42 has been especially issued for some Saudi Arabian authority.
Christian
I can't see very well, indeed, since the photo has a low resolution.
But it is true that, as Master Mariner is not always written on the dial as it is a family name, it is hard to see the différences.
I will post somethingon the MM family, one day.
Best,
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-04-10 06:48:23