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SIHH is actually a trade show. Where manufacturers primarily

 
 By: 219 : January 22nd, 2014-14:13

go to show their new pieces to the dealer network. The press are allowed in to observe, cover, and comment. Former latitude shown in being provided with the watches, a photo room, and equipment was abused by some, to the detriment of the many.

It sucks for us. But, as ever, Richard had a very successful show with the retailers as all watches were available to show when required (and not with a high-tech digital imaging photographer who was taking the 50th photo of the same watch from a slightly different angle).

Most support the stance. Look at it this way: if your local RM dealer says I have some of the SIHH prototypes to show you, and would you like to come and see them, how long before you are running to the car to drive down to the dealer???

Andrew H

I just inserted the official press pictures into Andrew's post at the very end [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : January 20th, 2014-14:58
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Thanks a lot Anthony! [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : January 20th, 2014-15:23
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Thanks!

 
 By: Conkers : January 20th, 2014-16:16
Thanks a lot for posting this. The forgery issue is a major problem - they were fake certificates floating around around Asia last year as well. 

I am so excited for my incoming - my dealer is in Geneva now hoping securing its release from captivity! Even having seen all the new ones, I am very happy with my choice.

Cannot wait

 
 By: colton_d : January 20th, 2014-16:48

To see what your big incoming is Conkers.. considering your collection already this must be something special!

Was just in my local AD trying a few RM's on for size.. hoping to join you sooner rather than later.

I am glad to see your opinions on this year's SIHH offerings, nobody knows the brand better than those who strap one on every day

Colton

Thanks Colton!

 
 By: Conkers : January 20th, 2014-21:48
Thanks for your kind words. I think as I have posted before on here, I find it a little frustrating at the elapsed time between novelties being announced and actually coming to market. For example, where are the silicon nitride cases announced way before the NTPT cases were announced? I recognise the manufacturing challenges RM takes on, but I guess I would prefer the announcements to be made a little closer to the end of the R&D cycle! 

Anyway, I don't want to sound like a broken record, so I will stop there. 

Of the new ones, the 35 in NTPT looks nice, but having not seen the case in the flesh, it is difficult to comment further. 

I think the Loeb design (36) is quite interesting, but am not sure I actually like it - again you would need to see it in the flesh! 

The 50 looks very interesting. The combination of materials does seem to work quite well. 

The 60, I like the case design but I think the flight bezel (ie the 39) is more successful than the nautical version, although clearly the former is a lot more complex than the latter. 

The 63, I just don't see the point of the complication. Is it intended to be a variation of the Hermes Temps Suspendu idea? 

Just my comments of course - I am a huge fan generally speaking but of course do not like all of them - everyone has different opinions!


Interesting Point

 
 By: colton_d : January 21st, 2014-06:58

I have to confess I was not aware of the significant delays in the delivery of the Nitride cased watches; that admitedly would be frustrating!

I agree with all of your sentiments and thoughts on the novelties. The NTPT seems to be such an interesting evolution for Richard and the wavy lines are visually very appealing. Something to be seen in the flesh! As well, the Loeb design is very unique and smartly displays the complications.

Best of luck in staying calm as your incoming piece draws closer, and can't wait to see pictures!

Colton

Hopefully soon

 
 By: Conkers : January 21st, 2014-16:11
I was promised end-Jan, fingers crossed!

Hmmm

 
 By: chris4 : January 24th, 2014-02:18

I struggle with this decision really, surely the 'fakers' will manage to get what they need to make fakes anyway regardless of this RM decision.

To be honest my take is that people buying the watches need to exercise more caution. Buy only from a RM boutique or AD, and if you do buy second hand , then get it checked out at an RM boutique pre parting with the cash. I think RM should be vocal & welcome prospective buyers of 2nd RM's to a free authenticy check, even offer to be an intermediary in the transaction.


Some people that buy fakes are that stupid they deserve to get stung, on a high price ticket like an RM its common sense to get it checked out properly


Very disappointed that the live pics are not happening

That's common sense Chris. [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : January 24th, 2014-05:42
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It's going to be graet for sure! [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : January 21st, 2014-07:12
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Congrats on the 'incoming'. Hopefully we will get to see

 
 By: 219 : January 22nd, 2014-14:16

it vicariously some point soon?

Thanks

Andrew H

Stopping Photography is silly...

 
 By: chintu : January 22nd, 2014-02:30


While preventing fakes is definitely in the interest of the manufacturer as well as the customer, this seems rather pointless and silly.

The whole purpose of participating in an exhibition is to enhance brand visibility, create a market for new offerings and encourage visitors to get as close to the watches as possible; and that includes allowing visitors to photograph the models.

 If a photograph is all that takes to create replicas, then what is RM going to do when thousands of customers walk into all the ADs and handle / photograph their various models. IMHO this is a classic case of over reaction and the least effective way of preventing fakes most of all. Perhaps next, RM will be asking the ADs to sign a declaration that they will not allow any customer to click photographs of the RM watches on display in their showcases!! I am sure that the other Manufactures are laughing too at this naivety.

I would love to see the reactions of those AHCI members that use base movements of other Manufactures ( some from NOS stocks of archived calibers of those long defunct manufactures) to build their watches, leave alone photographing them!!!

Regds

narsi

 



The issue is not that the odd photo will get published...

 
 By: 219 : January 22nd, 2014-14:25

And yes, at authorised dealers, you will get to see the watches and take photos. But you are missing the issue here. At the back of the RM booth, Richard has always graciously provided professional lightroom and photographic facilities for the very purpose of providing the best images of his new watches. High intensity lights, light tents, and cleaning materials. Everything you need and more than any other watch firm at SIHH.

The problem is that some use that to photograph, using very high density imaging, the watch from every conceivable angle to that all dimensions can be measured exactly by CAD programmers. One or two shots using your Samsung or Apple phone is hardly in the same league.

However, to stop one person complaining because of preferential treatment to others, ALL photos were stopped. And if your AD has the watches and you are invited to see them, you will take the odd photo, but if will not be of sufficient detail to allow a very close replica to be made.

Not silly - very smart. For the reasons I stated.

Andrew H

Another question: 5000G?! are you sure it is not 500g (=5000m/s-²) ?

 
 By: Mark in Paris : January 22nd, 2014-08:16
5000 seems to much...

An extract for the Chronofiable certification process:

- ageing cycles consisting of linear and angular accelerations; 20,000 shocks ranging from 250 to 
5500 m/s2 (9.81 m/s2=1g) as well as changes in temperature and humidity during these cycles.
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