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The Mach One SkyEagle watch: an unusual monopusher chronograph

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 3rd, 2013-06:56
The sports-addicted collection in Ellicott's stable, the Mach One collection, gets a new edition of the SkyEagle monousher chronograph:




No, I have not photographed the watch upside-down! The movement is modified in that it (i) shows the escapement on the dial and (ii) places the mono pusher very conveniently (for left-hand wearers, at least) at the 8 o'clock position. This allows for a comfortable control of the chronograph with your thumb.




The case is crafted from steel and tantalum and follows the same cushionoid shape known from the Majesty collection. However, with 44 x 44 mm its considerable larger. The dial shows an even stronger emphasis on vertical dimension, partly because of the skeletonisation, partly because of the enhanced dimensions of the elements.



Legibility is great from almost all points of view as far as the chronograph is concerned, however I cannot attest the same to the basic time indications. Here the contrast of the grey hands to the metal dial is simply too low.



The open-worked and exposed escapement lives up the dial. As a nice feature the company has also moved the gears to the chronograph minute counter to the dial side.



The backside is a bit simpler than the corresponding view of the Majesty due to a more common round crystal. Since the central rotor demands more space on the third dimension a cross-shaped crystal would be a non-sensical addition.




I have no firsthand knowledge about the origin of the movement, but to me it appears to be a heavily modified Valjoux movement:




Interestingly the watch works quite well on the wrist. I also find the cushion shape to be less bothersome compared to the Majesty.





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Not bad... but I would have preferred it without the dial opening. [nt]

 
 By: foversta : October 7th, 2013-13:38
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The Master Complication RS 38: World's slimmest Perpetual Calendar Minute Repeater

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 3rd, 2013-08:06
The 'crown' of the Ellicott collection certainly is the Master Complication RS 38: A (-nother?) homage to John Ellicott's admission to the Royal Society in 1738, this time with a set of complications that can make watch connoisseurs' heats melt: a perpetual calendar with moonphase combined with a minute repeater in such a way that the result is the flatted movement in its class:




The Master Complications follows the design cues of the Royal Skeleton case and combines it with the dial concept of the Majesty. The outcome is a blend of elements that - to my view - works nicely with this timepiece: The watch is in no way overloaded with dials, the calendar functions are well legible and the face has a strong appeal (to me at least).




Admired from a close angle the Master complication unveils its subtle and refined combination of boldness and elegance:






There are a few inconsistencies still in this piece but I think we can attribute this to the prototype version I have seen.

The side presents a double-rim 'dog collar' case band and a very slim and almost fragile minute repeater lever. I have to admit that I find this a very compelling solution (in the context of the this watch, where the complications should speak for itself without shouting out loudly).




Fully turned over we discover a thoroughbred, traditional minute repeater movement. I could not identify it but I could imagine this being based upon a Le Coultre ebauche. Note the traditional click on the mainspring barrel, and the full-bridge design. And of course not to forget the cathedral gongs (we come to that later!):




The finishing is traditional as well and of a high standard. Note the overall flatness of this masterpiece: For a movement comprising a minute repeater, a perpetual calendar and a moonphase display and made out of 388 parts an overall thickness of 5.11 mm is quite an achievement!






Another fascinating aspect is found in the extremely sharp engraving of the inscriptions:




The following video gives and impression on how the light play with the watch, and of course how well the minute repeater is tuned - remarkably given the company has little experience with such elaborate pieces!


Finally, what do you expect if you have the chance to strap on such a piece? I myself appreciate the fresh look of this complicated timepiece, its superb sound and its relative low-key nature!







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I have mixed emotions here...

 
 By: foversta : October 7th, 2013-13:40
The sound seems to be excellent and the movement is superb. But I find the dial a bit too simplist.

Thanks a lot for this comprehensive presentation!

Fx


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Conclusion Ellicott watches: Fit for a King, but also for you?

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 3rd, 2013-12:39
Instead of a foreword:

Drafting my personal summary and conclusions on Ellicott was not an easy task, in fact I tried to procrastinate as much as I could ;-). The reason: I enjoyed a warm and personal welcome at their Basel booth, which makes it even harder to offer some fundamental critique. But not doing so would not be fair to our members either (and strictly non-purist!).

Let's face the following: Ellicott's watches have many of the ingredients of successful watches, distinctive designs, some interesting movements paired with very good quality. But is this enough to flourish in a saturating market?

To start with, I question the concept of adopting a relatively unknown (compared to Arnold or Graham) name of a British master as namesake for a Swiss company. Others have done it before, not without success. But just taking a British name for sake of having something different from your usual Swiss brand lacks intellectual appeal to me. Particularly as I fail to see a logical connection between the ancient pieces of John Ellicott and those of Ellicot 1738. Where is the connecting element (design, mechanism, else?)? The name - at least for me - would not suffice.

I find such a concept somewhat inconsistent in its execution: I am well aware that the industry landscape in Switzerland is much more amenable to creating a new horological start-up, but nevertheless I ask myself time and time again why one would not go the full way towards establishing a truly British brand? Or, a Swiss brand?

THAT would create an interesting brand that has all the credibility you need to conquer today's watch markets.

Second, another aspect is your unique selling point. I touched this aspect already above. The modern-day Ellicott watches - at least in my view - lack the decisive idiosyncratic attribute that would tip the scale, even if my comments above remain unanswered. The designs are somewhere between Harry Winston and Clerc, while the movements have some unique elements. In their conceptual design they are - I fear - not distinctive enough. Communicating the flattest minute repeater/perpetual calendar/moonphase watch won't certainly not be an easy task given all I wrote above (although the watch deserves all possible efforts!). Particularly since modern design and production tools/technologies allow for a largely unconstrained realisation of ideas (whether this is good is another question).



This leads me finally to my view on the watches. I noted before that cushion shaped watches are generally not amongst my favourites. But this does not stop me from really liking most of the dials, both in design as well as execution. I also admire the restraint applied in respect to the sheer number of design elements, even down to the omission of unnecessary prose on the dials. This is really rare these days!

It would be all too easy to declare the Master Complication my favourite (it is amongst them ;-)). But I really liked the expressive dials and bezels of the Majesty and would really love to see another case shape.

I certainly will follow the brand further and wish them all the best for the future!

Thanks for reading,
Magnus



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great review Marcus.

 
 By: G99 : October 6th, 2013-08:10
not sure on the chrono, but the others look really nice and just that little bit unusual.

best
Graham
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Magnus - this series of posts is SUPERB!!!!

 
 By: MichaelC : October 4th, 2013-06:29
Thank you for your efforts.  I also appreciate your honesty.  It is our duty to present all points to the Community and everyone can decide on their own.

Visually, I like many of the elements I see in these watches.  Certainly enough that I would like to try them on.  But from your first post on, I wondered the same about these brand owners "acquiring" the rights to the Ellicott name and using it for their new watches.  What is the connection there?  I'm afraid I am lost on that relationship, and it seems to be very important to the new brand.

When I stood in AP's Restoration Workshop a few months ago, and saw tools that were over 100 years old and parts boxes and notes hand written by Jules Audemars and Edward Piguet, I could feel the passion and company lineage.  I don't get any of that feeling with Ellicott 1738 (granted, I am just reading about them on my computer screen).

Ignoring that rather important point, I would certainly approach these watches if I were to see them in a dealer's case among other brands I more readily know.  Very interesting looking, and surely well made.  I certainly do not question the passion of the owners to produce fine watches, and I hope the company is successful.
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Would the issue of 'relationship' and 'connection'...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 4th, 2013-14:01
be entirely different if - say - the owners of the brand were Ellicott collectors and at some point decided that it would be a great challenge to revive the brand?

I guess I have that answer....

Thanks for your comment,
Magnus
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Ellicott 1738: some good and some bad points

 
 By: MTF : October 4th, 2013-15:23
Thanks Magnus for the introduction.

Others have already pointed out the incongruence of taking on a British name for a start-up Swiss company run by an Italian. It could be worse if it were a British company taking a Swiss watchmaking name!

There are certain praiseworthy design motifs that keep form and function connected simply. Like cushion shaped cases, not to my personal taste but we can still acknowledge the 

On the other hand, the 'cross-shape' sapphire case back makes no sense when a simple round window could afford maximum view without the cost and affectation. The 'extra' viewing area is only of the spacer around the movement, after all.

 All in, the range provides 'choice' to punters who want to be different. My good wishes for the endeavour. 

Regards,
MTF
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On the back crystal...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 6th, 2013-06:05
Your comments are of course valid, and I missed one aspect:



The crystal echoes the shape of the proprietary screws...

On your conclusion ("the range provides 'choice' to punters who want to be different") - yes, I think you have a point here!

Cheers,
Magnus

P.S.: Mr Finazzi is Swiss - born and raised in the Swiss watch town of La Chaux-de-Fonds ...

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Intersting new brand

 
 By: KIH : October 6th, 2013-07:31
They seem to know what they are doing!  Beautiful design.
Would love to see in person to look closer the finishing and the actual size on my wrist smile

Thanks for the article, Magnus.

Ken
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Thanks for bringing us closer to Ellicott

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : October 6th, 2013-10:10

Great report and commentary.   I like the look and feel of the Ellicott dials because it's masculine, simple, and has a lot of depth to it. 

Thanks for the 2 videos on the minute repeater.  It sounds pretty good if you ask me - I like the tempo, tone, and the volume.  Wish it had a tad more resonance but the overall sound for such a slim case is extremely good.

Thanks for the report Magnus!

Cheers,
Anthony

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Great Review, Agree on the Name...

 
 By: Whirling : October 6th, 2013-15:27
Thank you for the detailed review of these watches and the discussion of the brand.  This brand is hardly the only one to purchase an obsolete name in hopes of providing gravitas to the company and maybe fool some buyers who don't realize that this is a completely new company without any track record.  I don't think this is a wise strategy at this end of the market where most buyers take a moment or two to investigate such matters.  Truth, clarity, and openness count for a lot in establishing a reputation.  If I were the owners, I would rename the company after themselves or, perhaps, a family member or pet.  

The watches, themselves, look great!

Regards,
Jon
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I don't understand it as well

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : October 8th, 2013-16:12

If I were to make my own watches, poor my heart and soul into this project, and fund the project with my hard earned money, why would I want to name my watch brand after someone else?  It's going to have my own name on it or a name I make up.  I'd never slap on someone else's name.

I guess people have different reasons for doing so, but Ellicott as a name isn't that well known so I too wouldn't have named my company after him.  The benefits just don't outweigh the drawbacks in my book.

- Anthony

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