Horological Meandering

.. a pair of vintage Seiko SilverWave.

 

Hello there,

This is my first review ever on PuristsPro, and these watch are certainly not "luxurious wristwatches for collectors and buyers", so please be indulgent with me (and pardon my poor written english)... well, try to enjoy it anyway

 

Seikomatic SilverWave, 1963

 

with its amazing starburst dial...

 

 

... which strangly remains me this super hero from my youth ... 

 

 

If you look carefully, you might have notice above the "Silver Wave" text, but below the arbor for hands there is a circular logo ... it appears to be the logo that means "Special Dial" in Seiko nomenclatura

The Silverwave happened to be "the first" in so many things:

First Seiko with an internal rotating ring, first Automatic Seiko movement encased in a screw caseback instead of snap, and consequently waterproofed at 50m

This forgotten diver is supposed to be the ancestor of the famous 6217 or 62mas...

 

(credit WUS)

 

(credit WUS)

 

... so supposingly the first Seiko diver ever.

 "[i]Prior to the 1964 Tokyo Olympics (with Seiko as Official Timer), Seiko had introduced its first range of truly submersible sport watches with (internal) rotating countdown bezels( in the form of the Seikomatic 50m Silverwave (1962)and the Sportsmatic 30m Silverwave (1964). These sports divers were the immediate precursors to Seiko (and Japans) first professional diver comprising 150m depth capability, shockproofing, extreme legibility and an external timing bezel,the 62MAS(1965)." (from the 6217 Buyers Guide).[/i]"

 

Several versions of this early Silverwave were produced from 1962 to 1964:

- white dial, white bezel

(credit google)

 

- white dial, black bezel

(credit myself)

 

- black dial, black bezel
(unable to locate...does anyone has a pic of this version ....  ???)

Lately, a 50 m dial version appeared

(credit kumakun / Seikoholics)

 

(credit Zonda / Seikoholics)

 

The watch was not cheap though: around 11.000 yens, mainly because of its Seikomatic 20 jewels caliber (62SW)

(credit google)

 

It works that way: turn the crown and you rotate the bezel, pull it and you set the time.... but impossible to wind it manually.

 

Sportmatic SilverWave, 1965

 

 

... and once again  ...

 

From 1964, Seiko started to sell this "cheaper" Sportmatic version (8200 yens) with its 66SW serial 17 jewels caliber.

(credit google)

 

The watch is not the same class as the previous model: the dial does not have the same lustre of the 50M versions; other lesser features are only having a snap case back, 30m waterproof, the rotating bezel is made of plastic instead of bakelite (like the later 1968+ Sports 70m watches) and obviously the 17 jewel movement

 

Same dial and ring coulour variations as above:

 

 (credit myself)

 

Funny copper patina... :

(credit Cannop / TZ-UK)

 

(credit google)

etc...

Underestimated, and far undervalued, these watches are absolutly legit for any diver fan collector nonetheless... IMHO of course

 

  

Best regards

 

Fred

This message has been edited by Ludi on 2012-02-15 03:26:26

i'm a bit of a Seiko fan myself, i like their in-house calibres, i like their designs, i like their dating system which makes it easier for me to find the correct year (1964) for me.

this review shows that they were innovative with their dive watches. the inner rotating bezel uses the single crown and not a second crown as in the super compressors. you've also shown me that there is another Seiko for me to look out for to add to my 64 theme.(i have several including their 1 button chrono from the 64 Olympics)

i'll say it again, great review

best

graham

Ludi,

Thank you very much for the introduction to another Seiko that I didn't know.

The one with the black bezel is a wonder!

I feel sorry that here where I live, the most common vintage Seiko is always a chronograph.

Cheers,

Nilo

There's no limit to the interesting things we find in the watch universe.

... for your kind answers This message has been edited by Ludi on 2012-02-15 09:55:11

it has the plastic bezel and is in excellent condition apart from the bezel which shows wear, but what can we expect after 48 years.

there is one Seiko chronograph that i'm looking at and have wanted for a while even though it doesnt fit into any of my collecting themes. its the 7016 which is a true flyback with bi axial hour/minute chrono subdial. one of the first bi axial chronograph movements i believe even though patek and others now use a double counting subdial. its also an auto with day/date. quite an advanced movement for 1972.

BTW Fred, you are quite obviously the same person who made the post on the other forum so i will publicly apologise and hope you took no offence to my question.

best regards

Graham

... whatsoever obviously Graham ... even if I have no idea about the question you're making reference to ?

You are very lucky to own a 5719. Is it a white or black bezel ?

I have myself an early 6139 from sept 1969.

Its only interest, to my eyes, is being one of the first automatic chronograph ever produced, considering Seiko issued this movement on april 1969, same time as the El Primero and/or cal 11 (no debate on about who was the first to come ) .

Seiko made a huge amount of various watch through the past decades, and there are still jewels to dig in it. The 7016 "Monaco" chronograph is certainly one of them.

Good hunt

Cheers

Fred

This message has been edited by Ludi on 2012-02-15 12:17:10

i've got the black bezel. i know that Bill Sohne has the steel bezel, but i've never seen a white bezel not that you see many of them at all.

i'm giving the 7016 a miss. i've seen them before so i'll see another one when i've got more pennies in the piggy bank

best

Graham

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The black dial version looks very nice!

Hm, I need to start learning more about Seiko...

 

Best

Blomman

Thanks for the great post, Fred

Never seem them before.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

 

Vte