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The New Urwerk UR-100V Magic T Hunter Green
Any comments on UR-100V MAGIC T HUNTER GREEN?
This message has been edited by India Whiskey Charlie on 2025-01-29 14:45:29
This message has been edited by India Whiskey Charlie on 2025-01-29 14:45:29
Like most Urwerk watches, I like the time display and high machismo appearance!
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This will be an unpopular view but....
I had always been a Urwerk fan and set my eyes on the UR-100 series. However, in the few year, there have been a plethora of Chinese knock off brands with satellite complication/wondering hours complication for a mere fraction of the price.
I would say that Urwerk's value was in their innovation, but now that this has been eroded and democratized there is no desire to acquire this brand, unfortunately.
I would say that Urwerk's value was in their innovation, but now that this has been eroded and democratized there is no desire to acquire this brand, unfortunately.
I am in the same boat
In December, I handled a few pieces and felt the quality of execution didn't really warrant the pricing given the current competitive landscape.
Unpopular, but worth disputing
Urwerk's pricing is outlandish, but it's a bit like picking on Patek Philippe based on the annual and perpetual calendar complications being democratized. The difference is the knock offs are not offering a product that advances the older idea that they are copying, while Urwerk is incrementally improving on their older models.
Take a look at the UR-150 Scorpion, which actually brings the snapback carousel from the top end to a mid range Urwerk, while increasing the satellite arc from 120 to 240 degrees. The curved case apparently improves wearing comfort over the UR-100 as well. These are the types of improvements Urwerk has to push in order to remain desirable, but they don't necessarily do a good job of marketing them.
Atowak makes a fine product themselves, but they aren't matching with innovative slants like the EMC and CC1. They are also a bit behind on build quality and refinement. It's possible they match Urwerk in refinement one day, as well as offering their own innovations on the satellite concept, but then they're going to be $20,000 watches.
Take a look at the UR-150 Scorpion, which actually brings the snapback carousel from the top end to a mid range Urwerk, while increasing the satellite arc from 120 to 240 degrees. The curved case apparently improves wearing comfort over the UR-100 as well. These are the types of improvements Urwerk has to push in order to remain desirable, but they don't necessarily do a good job of marketing them.
Atowak makes a fine product themselves, but they aren't matching with innovative slants like the EMC and CC1. They are also a bit behind on build quality and refinement. It's possible they match Urwerk in refinement one day, as well as offering their own innovations on the satellite concept, but then they're going to be $20,000 watches.
Not so sure
I think Atowak or others could get you a fairly high quality watch for around $10k. I’m thinking of quality similar to my old Pro Pilot X from Oris. That was a very nice watch quality wise for what I paid. I’m sure it will happen here as making complex cases is WAY easier now than 20 years ago.
I would like one at $20k
With $20k today being like $12k in 2015.
Just as I'd want a crownless Ulysse Nardin Freak at $20k, but I don't see how you'd make them profitable at only a couple hundred pieces made a year, each.
Just as I'd want a crownless Ulysse Nardin Freak at $20k, but I don't see how you'd make them profitable at only a couple hundred pieces made a year, each.