Patek Philippe

To look only at the overview helps to get that kind of impression.

Until next week I won´t see the new collection and therefore I decided to look closer even without
(personally taken) real life pictures. Of course not to all of them, but to the "major" ones.

First of all I am not sure if we ever saw such a variety of different cases from Patek Philippe, did we?




Before we judge about the novelties, we have to look in detail.

 

   This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2013-04-25 14:04:03

It´s predecessor is the 5127 and I would like to compare them.



The case is only 2mm bigger. The dial, the hands and the date look similar.
But the indexes are different, there is only one at 12 and the crown protectors are gone.

Anything else?



Yes, look at the side view of the 5227. It is still slim and  totally different at the same time. Almost "aggresive",
"sexy" ... but for sure not boring at all.

One of my favorite details is the invisibly hinged caseback. The solution they have chosen doesn´t add too much
extra hight to the watch, which is nice. You don´t have to look to the "small-sized" movement whenever you turn it
around. But at the end most of us love the option to look at it from time to time and therefore it is a nice feature to have.



Just for the pleasure of looking, two more views.



I don´t know about you, but I really like what I see and look forward to try it on my wrist.

More classical as before. A nice classical Patek, would be better even without date imho.

Br,
Dirk

I think the crown guard made the 5127 appear less "generic".  I'm disappointed to see it go.  I'm also disappointed with Patek's pricing... It's going up and up, without justification beyond marketing.  $37,300 list price for a simple Calatrava?  Are you kidding me?  In any sane market it would be worth half that.

i think it is sexy...almost more feminine

Oliver

Looking forward to see it soon and to judge better, but maybe it is just right as it comes with the hinged back.

 

Learned the retail price for it: you were right to say: High society ... unbelievably steep price, I must say.

 

Best

Moritz

... that it is not a officers watch, but comes with a same back.

Possibly some "modern" approach to a classic theme, possibly "added value" or something similar.

But as they can see: it can make an enthusiast wonder.

 

5153 is very sad in WG, I must say, very difficult to read also.

But for people who like a stealth look it will appeal.

 

No, in my opinion the 5159 or even 5160 is THE officers watch from Patek.

 

Thanks for the thought exchange.

 

Moritz

This one is new and doesn´t replace anything from the collection. It comes with two different dial options, but both of them in white gold.





 

Some detaills/parts look familiar, but that is not a mistake from my point of view.

For comparison I would like to show you the 5124 next to the new 5200.



The dial and the movement looks closer to the 5100, but with additional complicatons and two days less power reserve.



(picture credit: a fellow Purist)

A rectangular movement is rare today and one of that beauty even more. Both movements look superb
and so far I have a soft spot for the new one. The latter looks more refined, but thats maybe because of the
chosen pictures only.



For sure the 5200 is not for everybody, but it will be a low production piece anyway.

Like the 8 days more as the new one (dial, case), but I do agree that the movement layout looks better on the new one.

Dirk

Mythic 5100...

Strange game.

Best,

Nicolas.

I prefer the the 5100 for the following:

Did they change the three bridges on the lower left of the movement so they are now part of a single piece? In the 5100, you can see the perlage beneath the bridges; however, in the  5200, it looks like the bridges are joined by a uniform baseplate.

John

like you can see here.



I don´t know that much about the "old" movement of the Ref. 5100, but I see that PP managed to keep the same dimensions.
This time we see an inspired (by Ref. 5100 from 2000) but new developed movement with additional complications, a higher beat frequency ...

Oliver
This message has been edited by small-luxury-world on 2013-05-04 13:57:16

Somewhat disappointing, since the train bridge is styled as three separate bridges yet is only one.

Thanks for answering my question.

 

Regards,

John

Hello,

Quite disappointed to see such faux bridge arrangement on such a movement.  Understandably, the designer has to make space for the day-date quickset mechnism right underneath on the dial side, but still.....

Hi Theodore, thanks for your reply and it is good to read you here. If we talk about visual effect´s,
we should not forget to ask about the reasons behind.

Off-topic: Maybe it´s hard to believe for anybody who is observing the watch industry today,
that there are still other reasons than improvement of business case - only.

Back to our topic: three bridges instead of one.





The prefered solution from PP was to do three bridges instead of one. Technically this was not possible.
Each bridge needs at least one screw for fixing.
But it was not possible to find enough space for the screw needed to fix the "middle" bridge. I am not a
watchmaker, but when I look at the movement layout in the picture below I can imagine the difficulties to
find a proper space for one more screw in that part of the movement.

Patek could have chosen the easy/techical way with only one "simple" bridge, but Mr. Stern
prefered something more sophisticated. Can we blame him for taking care of beauty?
At least me, I can´t

Oliver

PS: Would I have preferred to see less features and more space for beauty only? No, not in this case

 

PP made a fuss about the gold chaton jewel settings on the 10-day 5100 when it was introduced, claiming more hand work and superior aesthetics (same for the 5101).  Interesting that those are missing in the new 5200, yet we have a three bridge illusion to enhance the visual beauty.  Time really has changed.   

Oliver

First of all, many thanks for these pictures and explanations.

there will be more, but it needs time. Thanks!

Oliver

Still, I much prefer the 5070, in any metal.

I am still a bit disappointed but the fact that the two subdials are not totally at the middle of a 3 / 9 o' clock line. And much prefer the bezel, the case, lugs and movement of the 5070, without speaking of the hands.

But, once again, this is just the opinion from a non Patek Fan.

Best,

Nicolas

PS: Good idea to have put a side by side photo of the two versions!

Bit, i have to give a big plus to the new movement.  The juices for me are in the 5070 case and dial. 

Bit, i have to give a big plus to the new movement.  The juices for me are in the 5070 case and dial. 

Usually I prefer Roman numerals but here I'm really enthusiastic about the Breguet figures on the WG version.