Patek Philippe

Hi gurus, would like to seek some advise/ your thoughts on a simple question.

If you were to consider a start into Patek, what would be your 1st watch (not neccessary new).

My constraints would be

1. Price:  USD $20-30k

2. Worldtimer or Annual calendar range

3. Materials: RG or WG

4. Dial: Black, white or grey.

I am not a rich man to start off with and all the watches that I have are all through hard savings, not some spare cash lying around from a lottery. So is it truly achievable or am I just dreaming again. LOL!

Looking forward to your thoughts for a novice.

cheers

PAt

i'm no expert, but it seems that something up your alley has recently been posted in the collectors market.

Thanks.

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PAt

Don't see  any better first ( even if it is the only one, by the way ) PP.

A superb look, an icon, a fine movement, a friendly complication, and a nice case, all that makes that this watch has no real contender...

What else?

Best.

Nicolas

Thanks Nico.

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PAt

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Hi Pat,

this is a lot of bucks you are able to spend for your first PP.

I am with Nicolas if you want a pretty "new" watch take a world timer - an all time classic...    I have a 5110 PT and I love it very much.

But for this money you can buy incredible vintage PPs.

A  Ref. 2508 or 570 (is a bit larger as the Calatrava icon ref 96) are classic designs to be recommended.

An "Amagnetic" in SS is also an icon!

Or an  "Hourglass" if you like rectangle watches with the famous Cal. 9-90

There are so many fantastic vintage PPs if you have 20K to spend.

The only problem with vintage - they are much smaller than modern PPs - depends on the size of your wrist.

kind regards

Erich

Finding one for 20 K USD would be a miracle, and I would immediately jump on it if correct and in good condition.

Best,

Nicolas.

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PAt

Patek's World Time represents everything PP stand for. It's a watch design full of history and you can find a second hand perfect example with a reasonable amount of money. Another watch which you can find with around 10k is Golden Ellipse. It's an iconic watch with fantastic movements. The RG version is difficult to find with peanuts but the yellow gold can be cheap like soap.

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However, I feel that the World Time offers much more and it's available in WG at around 25k.

Here goes my long hunt for the grail.

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PAt

examples and either would be an excellent choice. 

You can certainly go the vintage route but I would think it best to begin with a more recent piece.

There are many watches that meet you criteria and pocketbook.




 

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PAt

This seems to me to be a more useful complication than the world timer - unless you really need to keep track of the time in 3 or more timezones.  Obviously this is a very subjective issue, but I find the look of world timers to be too cluttered. Others can argue the same for an annual calendar The lack of a seconds hand would be a drawback for me.   But, of the 5110 vs 5130, I'd go with the 5110 for the more elegant hands.

Hopefully you have the opportunity to try them on the wrist before buying. Good luck in your decision, and please post some pictures when there is a happy conclusion to the search!

but hunting one down would be my quest.

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PAt

Patek has made some iconic watches in the past, some of which are affordable today as most collectors has moved onto larger watches. A few that comes to my mind which is within your budget.

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PAt

If u really poor or got no much money don't buy it. Keep your money.. for your raining days.  Patek not for poor people. Buy CASIO digital watch 5USD for one.

that you're a newbie or hiding behind a new nick.

If you have real advice to give then it would be appreciated, else pls stay out.

btw it's "you're poor" or "you are poor", not "your poor".

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PAt

This message has been edited by patrickmaniac on 2011-11-06 06:46:40

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Firstly: nice to hear that you are prepared to pay such money for a mechanical watch, for a Patek Phillipe.

Secondly: a Patek is not a poor men's watch! Regardless the level of mechanics, new or bought from preowned.

We see and discuss quite costly watches here and forget that people outside this forum, regardless poor or rich, would be shocked if they

learn about the price that Patek is asking for a simple 5119, for instance.

Thirdly: do not forget that a used PP needs servicing immediately.

And the service has to be done all three years, even if you keep it in a safe most of the time.

One more specific aspect in your choices: the more complicated a watch, the morelikely it to stop, more parts that could need changing.

I do not know what the service cost of a WT is but a suppose it will be more than level 3, that would mean to have $1.690 maintanance costs

every three years ... for a mechanical complication (the pusher) that is not the smoothest in the world ... not often used.

If, I mean for me it is like that, money is a consideration: get yourself a time only Patek ... and new.

I can see all the beauty of all Pateks in a simple Ellipse, Calatrava, Gondolo, Nautilus ...



Hope it does not put you off as I certainly admire all who share the same enthusiasm.


Regards

Moritz

thanks for the advice.

If I remember well, in the past IWC used to be called "poor man's Patek"....

Anyway, remember that a watch never close a search...

I wish you best in your challenge.

Cristian

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PAt

In white gold and a slate dial and call it a day.........I am saving for one
Please don't hear those words like poor man's patek......etc it's your money and you earned i.t if it is the lat 20k you own go on and do what please you

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PAt