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Busy and cluttered and very 'we have to come up with something' looking.... but then the original never did much for me either... this one is just transparently lacking all inspiration...
Nice integration of the pushers and a useful function in a practical watch. In short, a good addition to the PP range. I agree with the previous comments that a date window would have the better choice to keep the dial clean. Price? Too high for an aquanaut.
Best,
Stefan
do you know if it will come with the bracelet? I'd like to see that.
Do you know if the date automatically adjusts to the local time? I think this watch is perfect for me since I'm always traveling. It's practical and classy; and seems to be comfortable in any climate. Plus, it doesn't screem flash--a feature that I like when traveling to certain countries. Once again Patek did their homework. I'm on the waiting list.
Did you ever ask yourself why it is such a smashing success? Plaese tell me.
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most definitely not hot
Busy and cluttered and very 'we have to come up with something' looking.... but then the original never did much for me either... this one is just transparently lacking all inspiration...
Hot
Nice integration of the pushers and a useful function in a practical watch. In short, a good addition to the PP range. I agree with the previous comments that a date window would have the better choice to keep the dial clean. Price? Too high for an aquanaut.
Best,
Stefan
a definite NOT. too cluttered dial. i like the simplicity of the 5167
question for those who dont like this
Have you seen one in person?
probably not. Otherwise you would like it and thinking the 5167 is better than this
Absolutely hot
This is the kind of Aquanaut I've been waiting to see.
5164
do you know if it will come with the bracelet? I'd like to see that.
5164
Do you know if the date automatically adjusts to the local time? I think this watch is perfect for me since I'm always traveling. It's practical and classy; and seems to be comfortable in any climate. Plus, it doesn't screem flash--a feature that I like when traveling to certain countries. Once again Patek did their homework. I'm on the waiting list.
Nice watch.
I luckily tried this watch last week. It turned out to be a very nice one and looked much much better than in pictures. I think that 27K EUR is a little bit too much. In this price range, I'd go for a 5712/1A.
I got one today
I picked up my 5164a today and I am very pleased. I can give my 5980 a little rest for the moment.
Congratulations! I can't wait to be able to say the same.
Send some pics.
Here you go, this was before and after the fitting...
A look under the hood
Old reliable
The inspection
Before the band cutting/sizing
Hmmm, fits perfect!
That is a gorgeous Aquanaut and Nautilus
You are a very fortunate man to have such beautiful pieces. I really like the Aquanaut 5164; it's perfect for my lifestyle. Thanks for the pics.
Ejoy!
Not
I may be a bit biased. I think the entire Nautilus and Aquanaut lines are horribly dated, but I'm a watch newb, so maybe they will grow on me in time. As to your particular question, I find the dial too busy.
Not a fashion brand...
The thing to remember about Patek watches is that they don't follow fashing trends--they are classic timepieces that are impervious to fads.
I considered this but
found the dial far too busy and cluttered. i went 5167 and haven't looked back
Cluttered
and 100% un-Patek-like... you can almost hear 'the meeting' where bean counters said 'we've got to adda complication to the Aquanaut." Then you can almost see the committee trying to jam some complications in there, and the sighing designer (s)... and finally, the contrived result... maybe it will find its demographic for which it was cynically created?
Did I say I don't like it? 
But I have always found the Aquanaut sort of 'meh' anyway...
I just realized I already answered this question in about the same way.... so many posts!
This message has been edited by Mostel on 2012-03-03 10:47:22
I agree with some of your points, Mostel
The dial is definitely cluttered and pushers seem like an afterthought..
But I wouldn't refer to the Aquanaut as 'meh'.... less is more, and the Aquanaut is a stunning timepiece. Very well-balanced and it all works in harmony
cluttered, I think not.
Here is a picture of my watch, while I am at home and not using the GMT function. Compared to the 5167, or any simple straight time watch, one would suggest that there is a lot going on. As far as the pushers go, it makes setting other time zones lightning quick. I own or have owned several GMT watches and this is by far the simplest to set. Each push is either an hour clockwise or counter clockwise. My bet is most of the haters here have never even touched this watch as it is very rare at this point. I am very pleased with it and IMHO, I am sure most of you would come around if you actually had the chance to feel it or better yet own it.
I concur [nt]
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those pushers..
I actually like it, except for the shape of the pushers on the left. They just don't work well with the case. And for that sort of money I would've expected a more impressive looking movement.
For the many of you who don't like any of the Aquanauts...
Did you ever ask yourself why it is such a smashing success? Plaese tell me.
ugly
this watch is so ugly that it makes the nautilus look beautiful in comparison, which itself is so ugly that it makes the royal oak look like a piece of good design.
Its like Stern wrote a memo to Patek's designers "we have enough watches to capture the classy, sophisticated demographic of european aristocracy and american industrialists with discerning taste, but now I need you design me something I can sell to the "other" kind of rich people, lottery winners from kansas, professional basketball players, personal injury lawyers, and russian and chinese plutocrats."
This also answers the previous question about why the aqua is a market success. lots of philistines with cash to spare these days.
This message has been edited by edwardwchang on 2012-03-04 21:13:47
Kudos Edward !
For speaking the truth for the first time...
I am a little tired of blind love people have.... esp on this forum
I guess being a ''family company'' has its limitations.
Creativity is really low frankly and colour combinations of dial versus watch metal leaves a lot to be desired.
PP don't yet have a most desirable watch at the right price point !
Cheers
Ugly??? This is going to get ugly....
Now Edward,
I am going to apologize now because this is going to hurt a little. Since I am the only person on this thread who actually owns this watch, I take offense to your characterizations of those who own the 5164a. After about 30 seconds of due diligence on you, it became rather clear that you're a fraud, blowhard and generally ignorant.
You start off with this highbrow assumption that Patek's are designed for a "sophisticated demographic of european aristocracy and american industrialists"... You obviously have no understanding of contemporary economic realities... First of all, the "European aristocracy"????, they are broke and most could not afford a stainless Calatrava if they made one. There is also not enough American Industrialists left to keep two watch makers busy... And the ones remaining, I can assure you.... because they are some of my neighbors on the Island over the season, have no taste... they hire people to dress them and decorate their homes.
So who are these new Patek's deigned for??? You say... "but now I need you design me something I can sell to the "other" kind of rich people, lottery winners from kansas, professional basketball players, personal injury lawyers, and russian and chinese plutocrats" What I find amusing is looking through your previous posts... You talk about your Panerai and I particularly love your comment on the AP forum of "FORGED CARBON DIVER OMG OMG OMG!" on January 16th...
Can any watch brands best represent the... oh, how do you put it? "Other kind of rich people" better than Panerai and AP??? Brands that you own and appear to climax in your pants at the shear site of them. Here is my last and favorite post from you Edward, and I close with this... Below is a link to your very first post. I particularly like #'s 9 & 11... You skipped #10, I would have thought a Jason Bourne Harvard grad, who worked at Goldman Sachs could count in order... |
p.s. I also loved the tacky comment of yours that started with "I am a rich man.." And your trying to give us lessons on couth?
ad hominem
Dear Sir,
Is that you Dr. Freud? I thought we had doctor/patient confidentiality!
Unfortunately, your aquanaut still looks like the bastard spawn of a drunken nautilus's one night stand with a cheap casio g-shock.
I am excited about the forged carbon royal oak diver because it is the watch that would be worn by a cybernetic terminator sent back in time from the future by an AI supercomputer with a mission to terminate mankind, especially the sort of human that wears a patek aquanaut. Why would a cyborg need a watch? They dont need watches, because obviously all that stuff is built into robots. The cyborg wears the AP forged carbon diver because it looks really freakin cool. period.
Panerai has the virtue of being able to make girly wristed asian men who dont even know how to swim look like deep sea scuba diving manly men super heroes.
Ok, guys, you said what you had to say, so, please, refrain from going on this way. Thanks [nt]
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Who's on first?
Two men meet at a cocktail party. Amid furtive glances at each other's wrists, they discover that they share an interest in high end watches. One of the men, thinking that the other man is a sophisticated and refined character, proudly shows his newest acquisition which is a rather rare piece that has several desirable features not least being the method of changing the time back and forth quickly and easily.
The second man, displaying rather crude and rude demeanor, promptly exclaims "ugly", and then goes on to denigrate the watch and the owner's taste, station in life, motivations for buying a watch, and for a general lack of proper WIS'ism.
The first man 1) politely suggests that the other man might take a closer look at the positive aspects of the watch, implying that while the man certainly has a right to his opinion, there's no reason to be impolite and impolitic; or 2) the first man slugs the other man for being a jerk; or 3) the first man first points out that the other man's behavior is not suitable for polite company, and then himself indulges in impolite behavior and slugs the other man for being so insulting.
fisticuffs
This scenario could never happen! No one who wears a fine Patek, even an aquanaut, would get in a fistfight while wearing it!
Id rather block a punch with my face than with my left arm with a Patek on the wrist, even the dubious aquanaut GMT.
Needless to say, a fistfight voids the Patek warranty.
Don't waste your sweat...
This guy is obviously delusional and/or a pathological liar and a hypocrite, just look at his past posts, he's making a complete idiot of himself!
ban or warning
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