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Love the simple look with the petite seconds. However, it is a manual wind with the 215 cal.
take a look at the 5120. It is, I believe, the thinnest automatic watch PP makes. It has a micro rotor and a 240 cal. The dial is even simpler than the 5119 with just minute and hour hands. However, it is a milestone in the calatrava family. Both have the hobnail bezel but when I saw them in the metal, it was a lot smaller than I had expected. It seemed that the second hand on the 5119 made the watch appear larger than its counterpart, the 20, notwithstanding that it really IS one mm larger than the 20.
Not sure if this helped but either way, good luck on your acquisition!
Bob
calatrava 5119
Godd evening to everybody,
Can I have your comments and opinions about the Calatrava 5119?. I will appreciate all your opinions. It's only a dressy watch?. It's a small watch?. It's a "quintaessential PP watch?. Thank you to all about your comments.
Best regards, Jaume.
5119
I think the definition of the quintessential PP varies from person to person. As far as I am concerned, and I own the white gold version, this is an extremely versatile watch. Can be worn with any suit/tux, and is classic enough to be also a casual watch. It is a watch that can definitely be a daily wearer and not stand out as too ostentatious. Design-wise it is faithful to the old calatrava design, so if you are looking for something that has been a staple of PP over the years, this might just be it. Obviously opinions differ on this point, so all I am doing is expressing my own, however, as far as classy watches go, you cannot go wrong with this one. Will post some pictures of my example soon, but when I was looking for a calatrava model, this is the one that stood out. I purposely did not get one with a date window as I wanted it to be as simple as possible. Hours, minutes, and seconds was enough for me. Size-wise, it is neither too small nor too large (you can look up the exact sizes on the PP website), and due to the fact that it is a rather thin watch, having a large diameter would make it look disproportionate. If it was thicker, then a larger diameter would be fine ala A. Lange & Sohne, however the watch would lose its purpose of being a faithful reproduction of the original calatravas from the earlier part of the 20th century. My opinions only. Enjoy the decision process.
also look at the 5120 and 5127
5120 I feel is even more formal than the 5119...without the second hand
5127 is more causual...good with a suit
depends on what you want to do....
5127 is more causual...good with a suit
depends on what you want to do....
5119 is a nice, dressy watch.
Love the simple look with the petite seconds. However, it is a manual wind with the 215 cal.
take a look at the 5120. It is, I believe, the thinnest automatic watch PP makes. It has a micro rotor and a 240 cal. The dial is even simpler than the 5119 with just minute and hour hands. However, it is a milestone in the calatrava family. Both have the hobnail bezel but when I saw them in the metal, it was a lot smaller than I had expected. It seemed that the second hand on the 5119 made the watch appear larger than its counterpart, the 20, notwithstanding that it really IS one mm larger than the 20.
Not sure if this helped but either way, good luck on your acquisition!
Bob
All calatrava --best
I like every calatrava coz they have good looking for all occasions. I prefer the older model of smaller size such as 3919, 5022 etc. The size of 33 mm is smaller for today , the age of big dial. But the caliber 177 or 215 should be designed for a small watch because of small caliber. I also prefer a non-date watch , just a simple look with minute, hour and second is enough. The current model with larger size you will see the small second in the wrong location on the dial. And finally, I think the old tradition of the competition of being small watch on the wrist still survived. So now I look for them.
5119/3919
I had looked at the 5119 and thought it was both elegant and sufficiently versatile for daily wear. Clearly among the more formal of Patek's offerings but that's not a bad thing IMO.
It's very similar to it's predesessor, the now discontinued 3919, just 3mm larger at 36mm and with a display back. Although perhaps a more modern size, the fact that it retains the original 215 movement is a problem for some. Please don't misunderstand, the 215 is the workhouse manual wind PP movement but it's such a perfect fit for the 3919 case size that it seems a tad bit out of place in the larger 5119. The 3919 was the epitome of the elegant dress watch and somehow the 5119 might seem a bit "stretched".
I like the 5119 but just didn't love it. If the movement/case size disparity is acceptable to you then I think it's a terrific watch that will look as great 20 years from now as it does today.
In reality the size issue is not that big a deal and certainly much less an issue than with the 5196's. It's easily recognizable as a Patek, has proven reliability, and as classic dress watches go it's hard to find one better.
Lei,,,,,,,,,,,I think this IS the ........
Most beautiful watch ive ever laid my eyes on..............Love the size,,,Love the color,,,,Love the workmanship.....and i'm a huge Zenith fan,,,but this goes WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY over the top ...Simply GORGEOUS ...............Enjoy Mark
yes i'll give you My oppinion,,,,,,
I feel as though this timepiece is one of the most beautiful watches in the world,,and i'm a huge Zenith fan ,,But this Calatrava,,, (If I could afford it) would be My very first choice.it is absolutely Stunning ,,God Bless you if you have the opportunity to own this Masterpiece ,,,I would grab it and enjoy it the rest of my life........... Good Luck........Mark