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Thanks for responding. Yes, it seems that 5230 despite its merits is not widely popular. [nt]
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Great topic discussing the two references.
I may be biased but I prefer the 5131 because of all the reasons you mentioned
Case design,size,and I think the patek logo on the dial is too much .
Iqbal
Case design,size,and I think the patek logo on the dial is too much .
Iqbal
Yes, the Patek Logo should have been engraved on the glass, not on the dial! +1. [nt]
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But then the writing would obscure the hands of the watch?
Just my opinion after inspecting the watch carefully ... but I'm happy the way it is.
The writing is very small
I think sometimes we all forget how minute the cloisonné art on these references really is? Remember, ... the art is on a disc smaller than a dime! In an image on a large computer monitor I can really visualize whatever feature I want to concentrate on ... and that feature gets bigger and bigger as I examine it. Lol. As I look at the actual watch, however, ... what's striking to me is how small the art really is ... and consequently how minuscule the Patek logo becomes.
Hi Patekova , thanks for this post that brings out great discussion points. Based on not having seen the 5231J in the metal, my comments here are...
at an initial stage based on 5231 photos only.
I like the 5230 case (refreshing for a new reference) but wish that the 5231 would retain the 5230 hands which are attractive in their own rights and which can continue the 5230 lineage.
Having said that, I personally like the scissors hands more on the 5131 because of its vintage, distinct and unusual looks.
Although the Patek logo is consistent with 5230 lineage, it does obstruct part of the enamel dial which is the key to this watch. As a owner of 5131s, I attest to the discrete and subtle nature of the engraving of the Patek logo on the 5131s. The engraving enables a full appreciation of the whole enamel map.
Based on what I know thus far, I call it a tie until I see the 5231 in the metal.
Motif wise, I guess the world time is best with a map. Is it better with fewer continents ? Probably, but from a marketing perspective, less collectors would find it meaningful because their countries would not be on the map of each version. Just my 2 cents.
I like the 5230 case (refreshing for a new reference) but wish that the 5231 would retain the 5230 hands which are attractive in their own rights and which can continue the 5230 lineage.
Having said that, I personally like the scissors hands more on the 5131 because of its vintage, distinct and unusual looks.
Although the Patek logo is consistent with 5230 lineage, it does obstruct part of the enamel dial which is the key to this watch. As a owner of 5131s, I attest to the discrete and subtle nature of the engraving of the Patek logo on the 5131s. The engraving enables a full appreciation of the whole enamel map.
Based on what I know thus far, I call it a tie until I see the 5231 in the metal.
Motif wise, I guess the world time is best with a map. Is it better with fewer continents ? Probably, but from a marketing perspective, less collectors would find it meaningful because their countries would not be on the map of each version. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks Gordon for your expansive and well reasoned analysis - especially relevant coming from the King of Enamels! [nt]
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Great question my friend.
And for once in a long time I am actually leaning towards the new model.
Will need to see it in the flesh to confirm for sure but on first impressions I prefer the case much prefer the Patek Philippe on the dial instead of bezel I agree a bit of a shame about not much change with the map but I have to say the 5231 is the winner for me. Prefer the different hand.
Look forward to holding one soon.
M.
Will need to see it in the flesh to confirm for sure but on first impressions I prefer the case much prefer the Patek Philippe on the dial instead of bezel I agree a bit of a shame about not much change with the map but I have to say the 5231 is the winner for me. Prefer the different hand.
Look forward to holding one soon.
M.
Thanks Miles for chiming in. Yes, many of us are looking forward to seeing it in the metal. [nt]
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at first glance I prefer the new case But I will not make any decision until seeing the model in the flesh.Are they hard to get already? [nt]
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I am certain they will be extremely difficult to get. Small numbers and presumably an application watch.
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