Patek Philippe

Very hard to find? Problems with it? I understand it might be available in Geneve salon though...


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This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-12-29 08:41:16

because I've seen the 5235 readily available at authorized dealers and grey market dealers scattered around the globe. It does, however, have a ''broken track'' of history because it was introduced in 2011, but it wasn't ready for sale until late 2013 or 2014 - according to some sources. It wasn't featured in their 2013 catalogue, but it was re-introduced in their 2014 catalogue.

 

The 5200 also has a ''broken track'' of history. However, Thierry Stern made it clear from the beginning that Patek Philippe wouldn't produce the 5200 in big quantities, cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VajIcD7H4M.   

This message has been edited by Ouroboros on 2015-12-29 02:36:13

I don't have an official info but the watch needed update and setting modifications when it was announced.

After Patek considered it was respecting the brand's standards, it was delivered to the market around 2 years ago.

If you're interested, we talked about it recently here: www.watchprosite.com =

In my opinion, a very interesting and unusual offer in Patek's catalogue, for its dial layout but also for the new and beautifully designed movement 31-260 (with Pulsomax i.e. anchor, escape wheel and spiral in Silinvar).

Cheers, Mark

Have only had it for a few days. Love it. Dresses down, dresses up. So far extremely accurate--keeping up with my smart phone. Comfortable to wear. Rare model--there are none in the US with waiting list. Tiffany told me they have a waiting list for it of over 30 people. I was first on the list, supposedly, of another AD, but have been first for more than 2 years. Bought it at Patek Salon. They didn't even have any on display. Had to ask for it and brought the only one they had, supposedly, from the back. They were inequivocal that they wouldn't be selling it if all early issues had not been resolved. Anyway, love the watch. Joining my other three pateks, 5117, 5149 and 5146. The one thing I am still getting used to is reading the time, but I am starting to get it. 

As Mark says lots of threads on here withe ownership experience. Mine is also very accurate on the wrist. Strangely runs slower than spec in a winder box by a few seconds a day.
Glad you got one, they are getting easier to source but they key is you love it

Congrats, fantastic choice...

Wear it in good health! please let us know your longer term impressions of this watch

Congratulations! It is a wonderful watch. It takes a little getting used to reading the time but it is so different from other Patek Annual Calendars and has a nice new movement. Enjoy!

Still getting used to reading the time. But absolutely love the watch. Very cool. And in three weeks where I have wore it every day is about a minute fast which I consider acceptable.

Been wearing it non-stop since I bought it at the start of the year. Incredibly accurate! Have only adjusted it once, and only because it was about a minute or so fast. Should have let it go! It tracks the time on my phone as exactly as you can ever hope from a mechanical watch.  It was harder to "learn" to read the time than I expected. It is only now that it has become second nature to read the "regulator time."  And I continue to love the different and unique (for PP) regulator dial.  And obviously, having the new 260 movement with all the bells and whistles is pretty cool.  

I could see the watch worn by a collector during a Patek presentation lately and it looked so beautiful on his wrist. It is a watch that takes all its importance when worn, I was nearly surprised to see how good it looked!
Cheers, Mark

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In Paris PP. But also visited Geneva. Both Salons had it in stock, though not in display. I asked him about the reference and told me they had no issue with it while acknowledging the early issues. They said they would not sell it to me if they had issues. I have had it for 3 weeks and love it. It's about a minute fast after 3 weeks of wearing it every day, which I consider acceptable.

Reypas. I'd love to get my hands on one of these beauties. I haven't seen one in the flesh but I already love it. One minute fast after 3 weeks is absolutely perfect. Enjoy yours.

but I am at UK PP mid February and will ask them face to face. There are a few 5235 out there for sale but none in the UK at the moment it seems.

I have noticed the reference being available at the other European and US Salons but not UK. The Salon in London also said to me to forget about it as they do not take any more orders and that the waiting time is 2 years?! Maybe a trip to Geneva or Paris should be the next thing I do. If you find out anything more about the availability in the UK hashluck, I will be grateful. I don't want to risk buying it from a non-authorised dealer. My concern is what has been said about the suspension of the manufacture. Shahram

Visited the Salon in early November to look at the 5960 and chanced upon the 5235 and immediately fell in love with it especially it is very discreet and also love the buckle

I haven't seen it in the flesh yet but like you I have been deciding between 5960/1A and 5235G. I think 5235G is going to be the one for me though. Have you had any problem with the prong buckle? I have also heard that the minute hand does not always line up with the minute markers when the second hand is on the 60.

My minute hand is align to the second hand and with regards to the prong buckle - no issues when I am putting on the watch. Not sure but I heard that it may be the first time PP has done a buckle with this design.

I have never had a watch with a buckle before so that is the only thing that makes me twice think about this watch. I worry it may be too fiddly to put on and off and I may drop the watch whilst doing it. Having said that, the buckle does look very nice.

just not everyone will notice it or be bothered by it. It is a 'feature' according to PP thus the same for all watches with tihs movement not just some. It is particularly evident on the 5235 due to the very thin minute hand, very thin dial marker and hacking seconds meaning you can set it very accurately in the first place (and the minute hand will retrun exactly to that point on the hour it just deviates from the minute markers as it progresses around the hour).
I visited briefly to a US AD and they had a yellow sticky in their catalogue on the 5235 page noting something like no more orders can be taken until June but I could not read the handwriting very well upside down and I did not have time to ask anyone about it I will in the UK next week

I thought that might be the case, you have explained it very clearly.
I look forward to hearing from you with regards to the status of the watch in the UK.

So I cannot report much other than what you have been told by your AD is all I have managed to confirm. I spoke with 3 today. Seems they have been told not to add to their waiting lists and no clues as to when production will resume. It is NOT currently on any discountinued list, but they all suggested it could be a while before they seee any more. One AD did say they had received a few late last year and had almost cleared their waiting list prior to the notice. Sorry I cannot give you any more than this.

Thank you for the update. My AD was a bit more pessimistic and said last time this happened the watch stopped being produced altogether. I hope that is not going to be the case for this model. If it appears in the 2016 catalogue, that will be encouraging. I think by the end of March we will know the fate of this watch. Thank you anyway.

Seems Geneva don't tell them much at all

It was at least two weeks ago. This message has been edited by Hiëronymus on 2016-02-03 11:36:25

So it seems that there is a definite problem with the supply in the UK. I don't understand why Geneva has said to the PP UK that the manufacture of 5235G has been suspended. I wish I had some inside knowledge on this.

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