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Calibre 8500 question...
Hello,
Is it true that the Omega calibre 8500 is manufactured by ETA? I was under the impression that the movement was manufactured by Omega themselves.
Thank you,
Mike
Yes.
By: ralph_george : April 17th, 2012-18:16
Saved this quote from an article I saw a few years ago, but forget which one. " In an admirable show of honesty, Mr. Monachon also cautioned us that although the calibre 8500/8501 are completely designed and developed within OMEGA Granges, it is dangerous...
A few more questions...
By: mikesprang : April 17th, 2012-18:43
Thanks for the quick and accurate response to my question. Do you know to what capacity Omega was involved in the designing and developing of the calibre 8500/8501? Did Omega design the movement and then rely on the other Swatch group units to assist in t...
I am very surprised...
By: mikesprang : April 18th, 2012-07:26
If in fact it is true that Omega lacks the ability to manufacture movement parts within their factory, I am certainly surprised. I was under the impression that Omega was equipped with hightech manufacturing machinery within the factory. To hear that Omeg...
Again all speculation
By: MSNWatch : April 18th, 2012-16:53
None of us knows details about the 8500s manufacture so it is all speculation at this point. What is not under speculation is it is a pretty and innovative movement with world class accuracy. I would say among the finest mass produced automatic movements ...
Beware of 'hype'
By: aroma : April 19th, 2012-05:42
I would think that in this age of global manufacturing it would be extremely rare to find any manufacturer who made everything themselves. Just look at the car industry – parts are made all over the world – that’s what these huge container ships are carry...
The impression . . .
By: Dr No : April 23rd, 2012-11:48
. . . received was that the new generation of movements are made and presumably finished at ETA's facilities in Grenchen. I suppose it's possible they're finished in Bienne, but don't recall any words to that effect. As to the extent they were developed b...
This may be...
By: mikesprang : April 23rd, 2012-14:00
This may be a stupid question, but what are GUB movements Dr No? I am not familiar with this acronym and would appreciate a quick explanation inorder to understand. I suppose that the only hang-up that I am having with the calibre 8500 is not the movement...
Thank you Dr No...
By: mikesprang : April 25th, 2012-08:04
I love the swan-neck regulator on your calibre 22. I found a great video on youtube that shows the GO factory and all of the steps they carry out to produce these beautiful movements. It is amazing to see what they can do. Thanks for the info and sharing ...
Thank you Ruckdee...
By: mikesprang : April 24th, 2012-08:53
The Omega that I am most interested in is the Seamaster Planet Ocean Ti Liquidmetal (blue dial/bezel). This piece has many very good qualities that make me attacted to it, but I want to make sure that it will be a watch that I want to keep for a lifetime....
Stigma?
By: ralph_george : April 23rd, 2012-23:09
What kind of stigma - excellent timekeeping capabilities for a relative value? Ease of service and availability of parts? A proliferation so vast because of their reliability and cost that the company was a near monopoly yet still kept the prices fair? Th...
IMHO
By: MSNWatch : April 23rd, 2012-16:19
The cal. 8500, 9300 and other derivative calibers are among the finest mass produced watch movements available today. By mass produced I am excluding only the independents like Dufour and the like. ETA in whatever way omega used them is a huge advantage r...
My issue with ETA
By: aroma : April 25th, 2012-02:54
The issue that I would have in buying a watch with an ETA movement is not that they are no good. On the contrary, I think ETA movements are great value and can be highly accurate but I know that several 'cheap' watches have them installed. As an example, ...
One analogy
By: MSNWatch : April 25th, 2012-04:09
If you had the money, would you buy a porsche built by volkswagen if the entire vehicle was designed, styled and closely supervised by porsche? And if the answer is no, is it because VW also builds much cheaper cars?
As I previously said
By: Aless156 : April 26th, 2012-13:53
I think it depends on how you approach these things. I happen to think Lotus is a "prestigious" brand as much as Rolex is. Rolex is mass manufacturer of watches that, at the entry level, are affordable to a significant number of people. In my view, Rolex ...
Correction Re Valjioux
By: db darien : April 27th, 2012-07:55
Valjioux never supplied chronograph movements to Rolex, though it did to Tudor. When the Rolex Daytona was first introduced, it used the Zenith El Primero Chronograph movement, which Rolex subsequently replaced with its own in-house design. Valjioux never...
I believe the answer...
By: mikesprang : April 30th, 2012-08:16
The answer of course is that the El Primero is automatic. Rolex wanted an automatic calibre in their Daytona, but they could have opted for an ETA / Valjoux 7750. However, they did not and chose the El Primero. I would like to know why this is the case.
I don't know for a fact
By: Aless156 : April 30th, 2012-23:50
why they chose the El Primero over the 7750. My guess would be that as the 7750 was already in use by Tudor, Rolex did not want to use the same base movement in both the Daytona and the Tudor chrono. In the early 80s there weren't many high quality auto c...
I think the accepted wisdom
By: Aless156 : May 1st, 2012-04:35
is that the El Primero was the first integrated auto chronograph to the market, although Breitling-Hamilton developed a modular auto movement at the same time. This was in 1969. The F. Piguet 1185 was introduced , as I understand it, in the late 80s.
Yes, you are ...
By: nilomis : April 27th, 2012-16:21
Valjoux was acquired by Ebauches S.A. in 1944. Ebauches S. A., after the quartz crisis, was named ETA. Again, the classic Rolex Daytona was originally "Powered by ETA" (Not that I consider this a bad thing). Cheers, Nilo
Thanks aroma...
By: mikesprang : April 27th, 2012-16:14
I appreciate your understanding of my delema when it comes to this topic. I feel that it has been a very interesting and enjoyable discussion. I did realize, when I began this discussion, that defensive responses would follow. But, that is why I brought i...