Montblanc Timewalker Twinfly black dial or Nicolas Rieussec Gen 3 black dial?

Mar 20, 2014,01:46 AM
 

Dear all,

I need some honest opinion here between a Montblanc Timewalker Twinfly vs a Montblanc Nicolas Rieussec.
Some context: I have 2 Montblanc watches now. Both white metals, black dials. 

One is the Montblanc Star Worldtime, see below:





The other is the Montblanc Villeret grand feu black enamel (see below).





The Montblanc Star has a Sellita, non in-house movement. The Villeret has a Montblanc Villeret Minerva 13.21 calibre, one of the finest chrono movements around.
So I have 2 out of 3 pillars in Montblanc's watch category - non in-house movement at the base and Montblanc Villeret's Minerva movement at the top.
I lack the middle pillar, an inhouse Le-Locle movement Montblanc watch.

That leaves with me 2 collections to consider. The Nicolas Rieussecs or the Timewalker Twinflys. The problem is both of them are 43mm and a tad big for my small wrist. I made a trip to the boutique today to compare the 2. Here are some pictures and my thoughts.

I start with the Timewalker Twinfly, which is seldom discussed here I noticed.
Initially, I like the Limited Edition Twinfly Greytech but after months of looking at it, I find the Black Dial Twinfly being my favorite now. Here's a picture of the white and black Twinfly. I will only consider the black Twinfly to complete my white metals/black dial trilogy. 

The black Twinfly has a very modern and sporty look, with a nice splash of red (on the chrono minute hands and the tip of the chrono seconds hands) on the black dial. The red has a bright "blood" color and contrasts extremely well on a black dial.










The Twinfly has the in-house MB LL100 movement. Very unique as it has a twin flyback function (both the chrono seconds and min hands have a flyback function), with a GMT function. Pretty well finished LL100 calibre as chronograph with a column wheel. Not the standards of a Montblanc Villeret movement of course but pretty enough to look at and admire with the column wheel, the movement layout and bridge and blued screws. 










Despite being 43mm, it seems to fit my small wrist "quite well". I will prefer it to be smaller but the highly curved lugs made it fit better. Black dials also look smaller optically. Having sporty design cues, it also looks nice with its larger size, What do you think? Looks nice on my small wrist?






Next, I go on to the Nicolas Rieussec. I REALLY love the new Homage to Nicolas Rieussec but I just cannot carry that as it looks too big on me (I am very sure it will sell very well being Limited Edition and at a price only slightly higher than the regular Rieussecs... why is my wrist so small?!!). 

Anyway, to stick to my black dial rule for the trilogy, I have shortlisted a black dial Gen 3 Nicolas Rieussec. I am not a fan of the open hometime or open dates as I find them too cluttered. The Gen 1 looks oldish on me. The Gen 3 black dial is a perfect blend of classic looks with a bit of sportiness.

The day night indicator, with the blue and white adds a very nice contrast on the black dial. Many have said the new Homage's chrono bridge is neater than the usual Nicolas Rieussec's  chrono bridge (which resembles the face of a bull). But here on the black dial Rieussec, I feel the chrono bridge stands out very well against the black dial. The blued screws on the bridge also reflects light very nicely and when coupled with the blue on the day/night indicator, really brings out some blue colors amongst the black dial. 

Compared to the Timewalker Twinfly, it is more classical and I will prefer its design cues. Problem is the lugs extend out more and the watch does not sit as well as the Timewalker on my small wrist (although amongst the Nicolas Rieussecs, this is my best chance as it looks the 'smallest' being black).
What do you think? Is it too big for me?










The movement is the well known MB R210. Personally, I prefer this movement to the Twinfly's. The movement is bigger and fills more of the caseback, it has more "sexy curves", a larger and more visible column wheel (I have a fetish on them) and a very nicely sized and positioned balance wheel.









Looks wise (dial and movement both), I prefer the Nicolas Rieussec. I prefer classic watches so that's the main reason why. It is also more iconic than the Timewalker imho. It is more expensive than the Twinfly, which has a value hard to beat. The big problem is I still find the Nicolas Rieussec a tad too big for me.

The Twinfly on the other hand fits my wrist much nicer. It can also diversify my collection with a more contemporary look (I have too many classical watches).
It also has tremendous value, being 30% lower in price than the Gen 3 Nicolas Rieussec. To be fair, it also looks very nice and sporty.

One of these 2 can complete my black and white metal Montblanc watch trilogy... isn't Black and White Montblanc's colors? smile
Which will you recommend for me?





And if it were you, will you choose the Twinfly or the Nicolas Rieussec collection (any variants, not just black dials).

cheers
robin

This message has been edited by jrwong23 on 2014-03-20 01:59:19 This message has been edited by jrwong23 on 2014-03-20 02:13:31


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Hey Robin

 
 By: Spellbound : March 20th, 2014-02:37
I think the answer is pretty clear from your post. Don't feel you have to get "the middle pillar" if you don't feel comfortable with the watches that are currently available due to concerns about size. I would wait if I were you. There is no pressure from... 

Agree with Dean as well.

 
 By: jporos : March 20th, 2014-06:25
Montblanc is a house on the move with great things in store for the future. I would wait for that perfect size and movement.

They have the perfect LeLocle movements for me already. ..

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 20th, 2014-16:40
At a great price and value. It's the case sizes I have slight issues with. I love their LeLocle movements. I don't think they will change the case size or design of their Nicolas Rieussec and Timewalker ranges in the near future. Rather there is a chance ... 

black or white? The answer is grey.

 
 By: foversta : March 20th, 2014-14:25
But this version is nice too... I was not convinced by the black dial: ...  

Greytech...

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 20th, 2014-16:56
I will revisit. It's looks very nice in your pic and it really differentiates from the other Timewalkers. If I have to criticize the normal steel Twinflys, it is that from far it looks like the other non Twinfly (non inhouse movements) Timewalkers. Dont g... 

You made many good points Dean

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 20th, 2014-16:36
I agree there is no need to rush. Also I am eyeing the new Meisterstuck Heritage Perpetual Calendar. But that is not in my black/white trilogy theme although it fits me nicely. Will sleep over this for a few more weeks/months. Thanks Dean! Cheers Robin

I agree with Dean,

 
 By: Luis6 : March 20th, 2014-06:01
Wait until the easy decision and obvious choice comes up. As for the two watches you compared, I would go for NR, as it's quite an iconic design. Unmistakably Montblanc.

Thanks bro!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 20th, 2014-16:42
I appreciate your honest feedback. I agree with Dean and you. There is no rush indeed as these are not LE versions. Yes I do find the NR more iconic too and also slant towards it Thanks Luis for your inputs! Cheers Robin

I just think that the Rieussec is a bit too thick on your wrist...

 
 By: mkt33 : March 20th, 2014-15:28
but IMHO it is what is missing from your Montblanc collection. There is always a chance for a design change. Surely MB can slim down the 15mm in thickness down to maybe 12mm? While they are at it, the crown can be switched as well, looks to big currently.... 

if I get both the NR and Timewalker and...

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 20th, 2014-16:47
Also get the upcoming Meisterstuck Heritage Perpetual Calendar (which I have my sights on) , then I will have 5 Montblanc watches and be very broke! :) That will make me a crazy Montblanc watch collector! Not sure I am ready for that yet although it's a n... 

Thanks all for your honest feedback!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : March 27th, 2014-22:46
After trying a few more rounds and seeking more feedback from friends, it is clear the Twinfly and Nicolas Rieussecs are a tad too big for my small wrist. I would rather get something that fits me and will patiently wait for the Meisterstuck Heritage seri...