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i'm very sorry to hear about this, but the best advice i can give any online seller is
ALWAYS USE PAYPAL!!!
that goes for buying as well. i have bought and sold about 2000 items online, mainly watches over the last 10 years. i use Ebay all the time(i'm possibly the forums king of ebay), but i ALWAYS pay by Paypal using a credit card. no exceptions unless i know the buyer/seller. people slag paypal and fleabay off, but in the last couple of years their protection has become faultless. it doesnt matter what the situation is, you will get your money back. no problems whatsoever. even if i bought/sold on CM i would only use paypal unless i know you. with the backup of using a credit card if buying you cannot lose a penny. split the 3-4% fee, its got to be worth it. the same goes for SELLING. no chance of a duff cheque, any duff credit card is paid for by paypal.
i am very very sorry to hear that this has happened and hope the perpetrators bodyparts are found floating in several different rivers with your watch ticking happily away on his severed wrist.
best regards
Graham
JLC fraud! beware DBS number 14 of 999 was stolen from me
i was scammed out of my JLC Amvox 2 DBS. a fraudulent cheque was used to pay me and was returned after 7 weeks as a forgery. Please be aware that number 14 of 999 was ssent to an address in Malaysia. it is a serious blow in these times. ger
Noted! I am truly sorry for you! May I suggest you all
When trading/exchanging or selling your watch: 1. Do not Ship your ‘watch’ till the funds are ‘irrevocably confirmed’ by your bank 2. Even if you see the related credit line at your bank (or online), verify with your bank that the payment is ‘irrevocably ...
you ought to Post this message/image, everywhere you can
By posting this suggested message as often and everywhere you can, it will be 'googled', it may enhance your possibilities to one day hear something about it. Title: Jaeger-LeCoultre STOLEN AMVOX 2 DBS 14/999 Description: STOLEN WATCH Jaeger-LeCoultre Amv...
Sorry to hear your lost
Sorry to hear about your lost. I am from Malaysia and its people like this that makes us honest person hard to purchase anything from the forum because the trust is not there. Would you mind PM me details of the person and address? I know of some places i...
It is always the same... The Good Guy pay for the Bad guys
No one should ever decimate a person a regardless of his origins. Here all we are saying is to be aware and serious especially when dealing large sums'. Although I am not here the victim, I appreciate your willingness to help, that’s very kind and h...
Also good to know: Foreign fraud hits U.S. e-commerce firms hard
(Needless to say that this is affecting all countries) Top offending countries: Yugoslavia, Nigeria, Romania By Bob Sullivan Technology correspondent msnbc.com updated 8:56 p.m. ET April 1, 2004 Selling stuff online? Beware orders from Yugoslavia, Nigeria...
Spain and Malaysia are also well known to other analysts
for scams and frauds on electronics and high-end wristwatches
I am really sorry to hear that, Ger
That is extremely unfortunate. I saw the address you posted on another forum and did a search. That address appears to be that of a hotel. Anyways, I will keep a look out for the watch at the watch dealers. Moses
So sorry to hear about this.
I can only imagine how you must be going through. I do hope you are able to resolve this one day.
reporting to JLC
I have reported it to the JLC wesite, but have heard nothing back. I do have an independant valuation stating i was the owner and the value on the watch, this was got last year when i need something for the insurance company. i would imagine that I still ...
JLC website
JLC have confirmed that they have the information i sent regarding the fraud.
i'm very sorry to hear about this, but the best advice i can give any online seller is
ALWAYS USE PAYPAL!!! that goes for buying as well. i have bought and sold about 2000 items online, mainly watches over the last 10 years. i use Ebay all the time(i'm possibly the forums king of ebay), but i ALWAYS pay by Paypal using a credit card. no exc...
It is not as easy as it sounds
You did one of the right things by informing Jaeger-LeCoultre. However it will not be simple. The watch will be sold to an innocent party who may (or yet someone else) returned it to JLC for repairs/services. Despite JLC willingness to help you, unless it...
Poy, is french law very...
Poy, is french law very different to UK law? if JLC know the watch is stolen and it comes into a UK AD for service it will/should be passed over to the police to investigate. the watch remains the property of the original owner and the innocent subsequent...
UK vs. Continetal European Law...
I know that there are quite substantial differences between UK and "continental European" laws, but I am sadly not an expert on the subject and cannot elaborate much on the present subject. However, I know that there are much fewer differences between Fre...
I beleive in the UK 99% of ownership goes to the possesor
I believe in the UK too, the possessor has ownership title unless proven otherwise > In this current example, the watch was sold by Mr. A to Mr. B (who paid with false bank cheque). In this case if the watch is presented to JLC by Mr. B, in a non-legal wa...
Poy, after many years in...
Poy, after many years in the police i can say that you are not quite correct. if something is misappropriated, stolen or obtained by illegal means the title remains with the original owner so in this case the police would return the watch to irishger. it ...
From a Police stand point I am sure you are correct
The issue here is what authority does MJLC (Switzerland or …) have to take its decisions and actions… As for possession being 9/10 th of the law, (in my experience of a lost case) it is not a myth to me, from a legal stand point between England and Scotla...
thanks Poy, if only more...
thanks Poy, if only more people appreciated the difficult work the police do. i'm glad i'm now retired. from a loss point of view you are perhaps right. the owner would have to prove ownership which is often difficult. in this particular case JLC should h...
Give it back to Mr. Irishger
Oh yes, I agree with you to Mr. A aka 'Irishger' and no one else! Sometimes I wish we could take our own rights in hands, at times it would be so simple... but that is another story. I wish you a good, long, peaceful and healthy continuation in your well ...
