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Did Jaeger also develop the jumping minute counter for lange?
Greetings,
Was the chronograph movement not released because they let Lange use the innovation, the same way they let lange use the big date mechanism first? thanks for the write-up! I can't wait to see the watchmaker's watchmaker chronograph.
Francis
The true blue Jaeger-LeCoultre pedigree in Chronograph watchmaking
From an etymological standpoint, chrono-graph means ?writing the time?. The chronograph invented by Rieussec in 1821 (patented in 1822) literally placed a drop of ink to mark the end of the measurement (while the hand continued turning). Strictly speaking...
A great watch...
seems to be coming. Jaw you are perfect to make us desire. Thank you for your new input to our JLC knowledge. A great story full of wonders. We are getting closer to the jewel.
Mechanized production elsewhere
I'm interested in the date of the first production of JLC's chronograph movements by machine and whether they really pre-date the Waltham patents on the subject(1880, with production soon after). This was the pinnacle of American movement production as ca...
To be continued.......Arghhhh
Everytime I watch a series that says "To be continued", I get very jittery. As always, its like nearing the murder scene. The suspense of waiting till next week!! BUT...as I love chrono, I'm willing to wait as I know JLC will not let me down Thanks again ...
Thanks for the heads up Jaw, what's that 2.....
circular thin tubes on the Cal 19 CCRM for ? >>>>>Zach T
Did Jaeger also develop the jumping minute counter for lange?
Greetings, Was the chronograph movement not released because they let Lange use the innovation, the same way they let lange use the big date mechanism first? thanks for the write-up! I can't wait to see the watchmaker's watchmaker chronograph. Francis
the Jumping Minute function is actually not an innovation from JLC
the Jumping Minute feature is not something new in chronographs. For example, the rather old and common Valjoux 72 and Lemania 321 feature this function. Therefore it can't be something that JLC saved for Lange use only, as you can find it on many other c...
semi-instantaneous is not the same as instantaneous
Hi Guys, Lange's minute counter is instantaneous. Precisely at the 60 second mark, the minute hand jumps instantly to the next minute. Most minute counters are semi-instantaneous. A few seconds before the minute changeover they start to creep a little and...
I am speculating here
The calibre 829 project was costly, but possibly due to the ready availability of lesser chronographs at cheaper prices, the response from the market wasn't exactly hot then. Gunter Blumlein was one of the most (if not the emost) admired industry leaders....
Part 2 - The revived calibre 930 and a never before published PHOTO of a new watch!
For most technical watch brands, a minimum of a clear 5 year product strategy is essential. The ability to continuously produce innovations that meet high expectations is a real challenge for most. Jaeger-LeCoultre, in contrast, has many working prototype...
I am under shock right now!!
Thank you Jaw for all this precise report (I am eagerly waiting for part 3). This new caliber seems amazing. AMAZING!! You say it incorporates ALL autotractor improvements, so I guess it is an automatic caliber? I hope to know soon what is the use of the ...
Re: looks fabulous and exciting blend of functions...but I fear....
...that this is going to be quite a MASSIVE case. Not to jump the gun, Jaw, but any idea of the case size? - Daniel
Excellent reporting!
Thanks Jaw for another fantastic report, nicely split for drama and suspense ! A lovely addition to the Compressor range.
Jaw (and JLC) thank you!
I have been lookng for "One Watch" to wear for 95% of what I do. I need a chrono, and it needs to be sporting enough for hiking, biking and playing with my two boys. But it also needs to be something special enough for me to hand down to one of those two ...
Jaw, Thank you very much for a wonderful review. (more)
Do you know if JLC is planning a chronograph in the Master series? Best wishes antonio
Thanks for the report Jaw. Very interesting reading. Do love the fact that MJLC can..
design, manufacture and construct a movement and case from scratch. Such a unique firm within the industry. Andrew H
nice...its a dualtime, date, split second with an unusal 30min & 12hr indicator? what...
is that 6oclock window for?
Only current Integrated World Time Chrono...
World Timer (no dual time), no split and a seconds disc indicator at 6 o'clock Jaw
Wow! Thanks again for a fabulous writeup Jaw.
Overall a well balanced dial, the most symmetrical compressor dial yet. The 30 minute subdial gets an unusual treatment - at first glance it looks like the normal date dial. IMHO, the hands on the 30 minute subdial are too different from the hour subdial....
Wow !
Jaw !! My Jaw(s) are wide open !! Sorry What a beautiful report ! What a beautiful watch - Now how do i justify this to my wife.... Hmm... Waiting for more Jaw, Keep up the stellar work ! P
What interest me are the 4 springs.....................
looks like it acts to provide a suspension system for the movement when it's subjected to impact or shock. A cool piece of engineering art. Thanks for sharing,Jaw. >>>>>Zach T
Another good job done by MJLC...
The case design, layout of the dial, the anti-shock system with the case, the movement, and etc... All these are so well executed and I really like it... BTW, Can someone tell me what is the function of the disc with red and white colours? Chai
Part 3 - Magali Metrailler and the world's strongest case? (photo of new chrono!)
(Magali Metrailler, Jaeger-LeCoultre Creative Designer) When a young product designer Magali Metrailler joined Jaeger-LeCoultre 4 years ago, few expected her to make any impact on a very traditional company. Knowing Magali, few should be surprise that her...
Slight historic correction
I will be my boring self again and do a minor correction to your JLC history introduction. The memovox was actually not "the the first waterproof alarm watch" when it came in 1965. This title is held by the Vulcain Cricket Nautical, launched in 1961, and ...
Thanks Clavi, after checking with a historian...
Not only the 1965 memovox wasn't the first waterproof alarm watch, it wasn't even the first JLC waterproof alarm watch!, the facts was misquoted because of some mis-communications. The first JLC waterproof alarm watch was actually the Deep Sea, a modele c...
Interesting
I didn't know that the DeepSea was from 1961 also. I have seen it bearing bothe the US LeCoultre and the swiss Jaeger leCoultre names on dial (see this example of swiss dialed one)
Thank you, Jaw, for our daily dose of these new chronographs.
I like the engineering spirit exuding from them. The size is prohibitive indeed and I believe the price will be the same. Can't wait to see what JLC will offer for the non-Compressor series, chronograph or not. Ruckdee
In my personal opinion, the price is so reasonable that
the mid to high end chronograph market will never be the same again, what do you think if I say it will PROBABLY priced below the Girard-Perregaux ww.tc? But don't take
Master Series chrono as well ??
Hi JAW , Thankyou for an excellent coverage of the new JLC Chrono , something I have been looking forward to for some time , both are excellent pieces of engineering !! The question several have asked , but have not yet ascertained , is there also going t...
Thank you Jaw
for getting us further inside this nex marvel. Each step makes me love it more. The non-extreme compressor chronograph is stunning. I can't wait to see a steel on strap one. You say that it may probably priced under the GP WWTC. I guess you are talking of...
Never before published photo of Stainless Steel Compressor Chronograph
(Master Compresor Chronograph, Stainless Steel version) Jaw...
Jaw I love your secret signature. Class, understated, discreet!
By the way, could we know the siez of the "simple" compressor chrono? Thank you
Is it correct that this version does not have the Ti subchassis? ...
I do not see the "inlay" around the pushers/crown, which is present on the Extreme worldtimer version, so I assume this varaint has a more conventional case layout? Regards, Marcus
F=ma point of order and other concerns >>
Jaw, Thanks for the fascinating series. I have 2 points of order. 1st: Force = Mass x Acceleration; so for a given external force (impetus), the acceleration of the watch would be less (i.e. less rate of change of velocity or displacement) if the Mass was...
The question of "Force", may the force be with you...
Impact is exerted when the watch is stopped from acceleration, the acceleration just before the impact is the a, the force exerted on impact correlates to mass. It takes much more force to stop your "Densitometrium" than Titanium during impact with the sa...
Really got to see this baby in the flesh...
Hi Jaw, 1st of all, thank you for all the hard work in bringing us this 1st hand info...no wonder you "disappeared" for a long time , JLC is my 1st passion and will always be Most of the questions I wanted to ask have been answered...especially the gigant...
Sizes?
Jaw, Thanks for wonderful photo essay. This site sets new standards; bringing the latest improvements to an eager audience! I have a question concerning the sizes of the NEW Master Chronographs, the Extreme is 46.3 mm, but I don't see a mm size for the Ma...
This is one tough lady &.........
one tough watch . I can imagine the scene in their meeting room with technical drawings all over the table, formulas and calculations being challenged,all in a day's work in a Design department.....sounds so familiar. Thank you for this very well written ...
Part 4 - A Commercial break (Press Release)
Compressor Chronograph Master Compressor Extreme World Chronograph: when the hand of time is pointing to sport. The Master Compressor Chronograph and the Master Compressor Extreme World Chronograph represent a new horological peak for the master-watchmake...
So the counter at 6 is the power reserve indicator?
Two last questions: Do we get a 40 mm classic case (? la Hometime)? Do we get a 40 mm Aston Martin case? Perhaps some answers tomorrow!! Thank you very much Jaw! What a week!
Thanks very much Jaw for all your efforts and pictures.
I have been looking for a new chrongraph, but wanted to wait till all the manufacturers released their items. These would have to be the most technologically advanced chronos on the market and knowing how JLC usually underprices their wares compared to ev...
it has to be said
Hi Jaw, The chronograph section of this movement bears an incredibly strong resemblance to the Piguet 1185 and I've got to take exception with this line: "Obviously, this is a more complicated solution than that employed by other watchmakers. . . " A sign...
Wow, there?s still more to come? :-)
Thanks Jaw for the preview of the new watch and movement! I can?t wait to see the watch and try out the chronograph function. Vernon
Really can't wait to see the real things...
BTW, are Calibre 751 & 752 autotrack? Chai
A quartz-driven mechanical chronograph
Hi Marie, Until the current product annoucements, the only round JLC chronographs made in recent years have been a hybrid quartz-mechanical watch. The watch keeps time like a quartz watch with a battery and quartz crystal, but includes a mechanical chrono...
Well done MJLC! But where is the purist Chronograph?
Well done MJLC! Thank you Jaw for this world exclusive preview! You have outdone yourself again! Master Compressor Extreme World Chronograph is huge! As big as AP?s ROO T3 Limited Edition worn by the Terminator! Sadly, I don?t have Arnold?s big wrist to w...
perception of size is subjective
and compression keys have a very functional purpose and not just a design decision. Jaw
Part 5 - Is the scary sounding 46.3mm TOO big?
(From left, Magali Metrailler, Joel Cordier, Stephane Belmont with Compressor Chrono, Caroline Dunand with Compressor Chrono, CEO Jerome Lambert with Extreme World Chrono and Isabelle Gervais) Perhaps stunned by the WOW factor of the watch, most of us in ...
Nice size!! Looks macho on a man's wrist...
Unlike many other 40+ sized watches in the market nowadays, designed with a big watch case just to meet the market demands; the generous dimensions of the Master Compressor Extreme World Chronograph is justified by functional and innovative details. Strap...
Mine is also 16.5cm...just went to measure :-)
Hi Jaw, Strange...could be photography for the wrist. It looks good with your right hand and not that big but it looks bigger on Wei's left hand...illusion . I notice that he is wearing it lower and you are wearing it higher...could that be it :)hmmmm...a...
If Magali can wear it ,so can I..ha ha............
certainly nice to see wrist shots that gave a good perspective of the size of the watch. Have to try it on to really see but I'm feeling very weak now.. >>>>>Zach T
Where is the PR indication
The press release says the Extreme has a Power Reserve indication. Is this the red disc above 6, or is the red disc for running seconds? If the latter, where is the PR indication? Daniel
Part 6 - Portable shock test and a brief first look on the real watches
The use of Titanium and Stainless Steel (or Platinum) is functional, when you use 2 metals with different densities and properties, shock can be deflected, and hence reducing the potential shock to the movement. The winding stem has a collar resting again...
Part 7 - First look continuation and an animation of the Shock Absorber case!
When the 3 new models, Master Compressor Extreme World Chronograph, Master Compressor Chronograph and MecaQuartz Master Compressor Lady, were unveiled in Dubai, most journalists went straight to the Extreme World display case. (The limited edition Master ...
When?
Jaw, Fabulous! When will these new pieces be available and what are the price points?? Again fantastic coverage... Jeff
An astonishing debut
I'm 100% impressed and awestruck by these new JLC releases. I was never a big fan of the Compressor range, but these watches have changed all that. To those who complain about the size: get a life. Just because you think 46mm is too big for you, does that...
"Form follows function" - and a slightly different position ...
First of all I might point out that the famous dictum of "form follows function" itself has never been used by the Bauhaus movement, but must be credited to the US architect Louis Sullivan in 1896. However, it is clear that the Bauhaus movement, like all ...
Actually, the chrono is very easy to read...
and thanks for your very carefully worded post and contribution. And although I won't argue with your para "Especially the Extreme chronograph makes it difficult to read the elapsed time at a single glance, since it is very likely that one will not find t...
Outstanding stuff Jaw......such a .......>>>>
intriguing essay....i must say that although i am not a JLC fan but this is interesting stuff... Keep it coming... Cheers Pegan
I say !
Hi Jaw That is a rather reasonable price for these watches ! Any idea of the USA retail price indications ? Thanks in advance praveen
Due to popular demand, here are the tentative prices for the 2 compressors.
This is in response to many email enquiries, technicaly, I think the watch should be assessed without price discussion but here they are: compressor chrono stainless steel : Euro 6,500 world extreme stainless steel/titanium: Euro 9,850 world extreme Plati...
Well slap me silly...JLC has done it again...
Hi Jaw, I think with that kind of pricing, most other brands are gonna have weak knees Maybe thats what JLC intended to do in the 1st place. I have been actually following their prices closely and comparing with others. MJLC is definitely telling the rest...
