All fake...

Sep 19, 2023,11:49 AM
 

Locking crown position is wrong, 2 o'clock instead of 4 o'clock.
Dial is wrong, the triangle makers on each hour position are plain rectangular, Distance from numbers to scale circle is too far.
Would like to see case back from both sides...

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Lecoultre Mark VII Weems. Another treasure from Jaeger Lecoultre's Patrimony.

 
 By: amanico : November 8th, 2021-07:26
32 mm of pure beauty and power. Another variation, with the sterile dial, belonging to a good friend: Highly desirable! Best, Nicolas ...  

Thanks for looking, J K.

 
 By: amanico : November 8th, 2021-11:56

How about those big crowns!

 
 By: MichaelC : November 8th, 2021-13:36
Cool piece here.

Really cool, indeed.

 
 By: amanico : November 8th, 2021-14:26

JLC Weems with 411 calibre?

 
 By: shoebedoe : September 18th, 2023-10:24
Hi Nicolas Thanks for the post. I saw a Weems recently with a 411 (USC) calibre installed with a plain back. Very unusual and might be a fake but why would someone do that with such a niche watch? Any idea? Zaf is also quiet on the matter… Thanks, wolf ...  

 
 By: shoebedoe : September 18th, 2023-12:17
Any idea what it might be? The way the bezel stop is worked into the movement housing does suggest it is a genuine JLC watch (also why replace a JLC movement with another JLC in a ‚fake‘?. The case must be an original) If you don’t, do you know anyone who... 

This is the one:

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2023-12:19
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 By: shoebedoe : September 18th, 2023-12:53
You are right in that it is another example of a ‚square‘ movement in a round watch by JLC but this is a double date with a non hacking calibre 412 and is also used in the square cases double date. The Weems i uploaded has a hacking movement likely to be ... 

 
 By: shoebedoe : September 18th, 2023-13:14
Neither have I! Thanks for trying to help though!

No problem!

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2023-20:37

All fake...

 
 By: Ilja : September 19th, 2023-11:49
Locking crown position is wrong, 2 o'clock instead of 4 o'clock. Dial is wrong, the triangle makers on each hour position are plain rectangular, Distance from numbers to scale circle is too far. Would like to see case back from both sides...

 
 By: shoebedoe : September 19th, 2023-12:52
you may be right but I still wonder why someone replaces an original movement with an original JLC movement in a fake? doesn,t make sense to me. Here more images of the back, equally not promising for authenticity. ...  

weird assembly indeed

 
 By: Clavi : September 19th, 2023-13:02
To add to the list of 7 errors, it looks like the case is smaller than a mkVII. The bezel (which looks somewhat right) protrudes too much over the side of the case. It would catch clothes or objects and would instantly pop-off in actual military use... Yo...  

Ouch!

 
 By: amanico : September 19th, 2023-22:11

At ~1700€ that was quite an expensive frankenwatch

 
 By: Clavi : September 19th, 2023-13:22
It just hammered at £1000, which, adding sales commission and VAT converts to roughly 1700€. A bit expensive for a nice movement, a weems bezel and 1 crown... Hopefully not to someone from here ;-)