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Hi Narsi

 

I have never stated that IWC somehow hides that they use ETA movements or add on modules, so I'm not quite sure why you chose to tell me that.  But thanks anyway.  ;-)

In any case,  as John has pointed out (I was hoping he would jump in on this discussion) some of the quotes don't make a lot of sense.  The first set seems to provide a lot of detail, but then it reverts back to being somewhat vague, at least to me.  For example this statement:

"The entire escapement is a good example. It is ordered separately with different, more exact technical IWC specifications and is only fitted into the calibre at the end of the assembly."

Underline mine above.  So they replace it with another escapement, but that is apparently also an "ordered in" component, so who is it ordered from?  ETA?

Now the second quote you gave contradicts the first:

"Nearly all critical components along the path from the escapement to the mainspring are removed from the movement and replaced with corresponding components from IWC's own manufacture. "

So again to me it isn't clear what is really done.  And BTW I have a friend that is a jeweler than can "upgrade" your ETA with gold plating for about $10.  ;-)

Thanks for the discussion.

Cheers, Al

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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IWC Deserves better ....

 
By: chintu : March 24th, 2008-07:37
Hi I read the entire thread relating to the vintage watches being launched by IWC for the 140th anniversary and was troubled by the fact the many members were critical of the use of ETA movements by IWC and expressed that they would rather prefer a watchm... 

Wow, Narsi,that's a great defense!

 
By: amanico : March 24th, 2008-08:13
Very interesting post... Thanks for sharing and for having taken the tilme to write it... I totally agree with you, IWC deserves better than these critics. Best. nicolas

Thanks and one more...

 
By: chintu : March 24th, 2008-08:30
That IWC makes the only perpetual where the year indicator is a "FULL 4 digit indicator " and it also throws in a century slide containing the centuries 22, 23 and 24. Hopefully our decendants will be able to still use the watch after their watchmaker set... 

Tx for the great post.

 
By: Jester : March 24th, 2008-08:58
And I would agree to your points as many of my IWC's have been performing far beyond many of the pieces w/ 'offocial ' performance/accuracy attestation. Not to forget the P2000 movement based variants of the perpetual...  

There is a big difference

 
By: aaronm : March 24th, 2008-17:21
In quality between available Ebauches. The complaint about IWC using a large number of ETA/VJ movements need not be in comparison to using in-house movements, but using better movements, like the JLC that they used in the past. Or the other fine available... 

I don't think anyone was.....

 
By: 1440 : March 25th, 2008-10:19
being too over the top about movements - okay maybe one poster in that thread. ;-) But really I think some have a preference for in-house or maybe even "non-ETA" movements, and that is certainly their prerogative. I admit I tend to see watches with moveme... 

IWC does make extensive modifications. Here goes...

 
By: chintu : March 26th, 2008-02:54
Hi IWC doesnot suppress the fact that it uses ETA/Valjox ebauches. From whatever I could understand, IWC is pretty transparent about even the add on modules. Please visit www. IWC.ch ( the forum inside) to have a complete diagram of the iWC 37582 perpetua... 

Hi Narsi

 
By: 1440 : March 27th, 2008-10:07
I have never stated that IWC somehow hides that they use ETA movements or add on modules, so I'm not quite sure why you chose to tell me that. But thanks anyway. ;-) In any case, as John has pointed out (I was hoping he would jump in on this discussion) s...