Independents

The HM2 has long been one my favourite Horological Machines (although it is not the most comfortable on the wrist) and this appears to be the best iteration yet. I can't wait to see this in Geneva, I expect it will be the best looking of all the Horologic...  

HM2-Ceramic – Technical Specifications Horological Machine N o 2-Ceramic is a limited edition (over three years) of just 33 pieces in ceramic/red gold (HM2-CR) and 66 pieces in ceramic/titanium (HM2-CTi) HM2 Ceramic with red gold HM2 Ceramic with titanium...  

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...here: home.watchprosite.com And indeed, the HM2 resembles the B&R Grand Minuteur even more than it resembles the B&R Tourbillon. Personally I doubt that either firm "copied" the other. The lateral struts are a classic "stiffening" solution for a wide f... 

The HM2 was unveiled in Oct 2007 and delivered Jan 2008. The B&R Grand Minuteur and Tourbillon were both presented in Mar 2008 and none have been delivered to retailers yet as far as I know. Furthermore, I first saw drawings of the HM2 in 2006 so I can co... 

I seem to remember it was announced long before that - I could swear the B&R Tourbillon had already been out for at least 1 year at the time (early 08) the Minuteur was released. Most likely, in late 06/early 07 there were top-secret drawings extant for b... 

Google the terms and you'll find a couple of press releases dated to March 2008. - SJX

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Both of those watches are absolutely gorgeous! I like the RG/ceramic version most, but I would take either.