Pimp my Minute Repeater

Oct 22, 2013,03:38 AM
 


Hi all,


I'd like to share a little project I have.  But before, let me tell you that I'm a Minute-Repeater WIS.

I’ve been in love with minute repeaters for about 10 years now, and I own several (all of them are recased from pocket watches)

I happened to have a small Minute repeater pocket watch. The diameter is 39 mm - or 1 inch 1/2 for those who are still using the Imperial measurement system (one day or another, you'll go Metric).

I bought it on eBay several years ago because of it’s size. Since the start, I wanted to have it transformed into a wristwach.


Two other pictures :



I wanted to transform it into a wristwatch, but not a simple recasing.

I wanted something more unique.

I then thought of the Haldimann watches. The H8 and H9 (pictures by Foversta)


and the H9 :




I like these watches because they are Art. They are Horology to the extreme. Horology for horology's sake.



And I thought : Why not simply take away the hands ? With a minute repeater, you can HEAR the time. So, you don't need to watch the time.

This watch would then loose the reason why it's call a watch. Should I call it a "Listen" ?


I then tried different ideas on Paint.net (easier than Photoshop, and free).







Yes, this last one is great ! (note : at that time, I didn't have the pictures of the movement nor the case. So, the pictures are complete photoshop, with the case from one watch, and the movement from another one).

What is funny is that a few days after I got this idea, I received the book "Minute Repeaters" by Patek Philippe.

And inside, there is this text (translated from French, I don't have the English version) :

The last words to the father of the Caliber 89, at the origin of all the contemporary Patek Philippe Minute repeaters.  When we ask Jean-Pierre Musy to imagine the future and imagine the model that is still missing and that he would build if he had a free hand (carte blanche), the engineer thinsk, his eyes sparkles, with some mischief. [...] He very seriously answers that the fundamental objective of a minute repeater is to be able to know the time by night, or with closed eyes.

Here is his answer : "This would be a minute repeater without hands"

So, Jean-Pierre Musy dreamed it, I did it.

If Mr. Musy happens to visit Paris, I'd be honoured to show him my watch.

So, after several months waiting for the watchmaker to recase the watch, here are the first pictures he sent me.


OK. But there is a problem. With this configuration, it's impossible to set the time.


The green wheel should touch the blue wheel, that then make the orange pinion moves.

So, I ask my watchmaker to put back this wheel.

But the problem is that this wheel is held in place by the Hour Wheel :


And I asked my watchmaker to remove this Hour Wheel (as this wheel's only role is to transmit the movement from the Minute wheel to the Hour hand. As I won't have the Hour hand, I don't need the Hour Wheel.

My watchmaker sends me this picture, that shows that he kept the original case and dial.  I wanted to keep the original case, even if I’ll most probably never need it again, because I try to apply to this project the same methods as the ones used when doing a restoration of a painting or an old object :

- Make any change reversible

- Make any alteration as discreet as possible.


I also asked him to make some extra hands (as I wanted a transparent dial, the original hands would have been too thin and it would have been very difficult to read the time.

So, some blued steel hands :


And finally, after a couple of extra days more, the picture I've been expected for several months :

He did a very nice work, as the small bridge is discreet and does not contrast too much with the rest of the movement, which is about 100 years old.

As a matter of fact, the watch should be seen like this :

 

 The reason is that I want the activation lever to be on the right (I wear my watches on the left arm).  I got the idea from a book my Richard Watkins about the Repeaters.  It’s the best book that was ever wrote on the striking watches, and it’s free !

You can download it from Richard’s site :



 He wrote :

I have always been frustrated by three things. First, the striking of normal minute repeaters is awkward and difficult to interpret. Second, the repeater mechanism is hidden under the dial and it is not possible to watch it while it is striking. And third, the repeater slide is always on the left side of wrist watches, where it is inconvenient to operate.

In 2007, as a result of writing the above explanation of time units, I “invented” my ideal repeater. It would use a decimal counting mechanism, the dial would be replaced by a transparent sapphire plate so that the mechanism is exposed, and the slide and crown would be reversed, placing the slide on the right-hand side of the wrist watch so that it is easy to use. Such a repeater would be just about perfect.


So, my repeater is almost the ideal repeater.  I share Richard Watkins' thoughts on the ideal repeater.



Here is the video : www.youtube.com



Now, to answer some questions that I already had :

Q : How will I set the time without the hands ?

A : Easy. Activate the repeater to know what time the movement is set to. Then, change the time, looking at the Hour Star that will make one jump for every hour. Once the correct hours is set, look at the minute snail and turn it, looking at the arms of the snail.

Should need some practice, but I think I can learn to set the time quite rapidly.


Q : Who is the watchmaker that did this transformation ?

A : Please contact me for details.


Q : What happen if I get bored of this handless watch ?

A : I had some extra hands custom-made, so it will be easy to put them back


Q : Did I seek professional help ?

A : Nope. I’m fine, thanks.


Q : What’s your next project ?

A : I could tell you, but I’d then have to kill you.



Now, finally, if I look back at the Haldimann H9, I could go a step further and hide the movement.

Which is, more or less, one of the project ideas :



I also liked this very minimal solution.  But I’m too fascinated by the repeater mechanism to hide it.


Thanks a lot for reading. I’m impatient to read your comments.




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Very nice!

 
 By: Ancienne Le Brassus : October 22nd, 2013-05:47
Thanks for this great post, I find recasing watches like this very fun (as long as you don't scrap the case! and keep it at hand in case you want to sell it). But one idea that will add some vibrancy to your watch, why not just install the seconds hand on... 

Yes, I wanted a custom-made second hand

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-06:03
Hi, Thanks for your comment. About the second hand, this is what I asked my watchmaker : Or this : But he said he couldn't do it. I'll have it made somewhere, someday. ...  

:) That's a great idea!

 
 By: Ancienne Le Brassus : October 22nd, 2013-12:46
I like that!! very fun!! Again, very nice watch and thanks for sharing it here! Show us more of your minute repeaters ! S

OK, you've asked for it. But don't complain afterwards :-)

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-13:05
Here are my repeaters (picture taken before the start of this project). The 4 pocket watches on top are (left to right) : - The one that is the poor and innocent victim of the project - a very small 1/4 repeater - a Minute Repeater - Grande Sonnerie Caril...  

superb examples. G...

 
 By: G99 : October 22nd, 2013-13:09
superb examples. G On 22 Oct 2013 21:06, "www watchprosite" *Alert from:* www:watchprosite > *Posted By:* Origami (registered) on October 22nd, 2013 - 13:05 > > *Title: OK, you've asked for it. But don't complain afterwards :-) > * > > *

So cool, very neat

 
 By: doubleup : October 23rd, 2013-14:53
What a great idea to get a nice collection of repeaters. If you have any vids please PM. the Patek is something else, like the dial too. Always post these!! thanks again

Such an interesting approach, Origami!

 
 By: marcelo : October 23rd, 2013-18:30
;) The Patek is fantastic! Marcelo

And the videos ...

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-13:13
Patek : Favre-Leuba : Julien Dubois : Haas : Jaeger-LeCoultre : And the sound box : I noticed that some of the videos are "woobly". It looks like if Youtube applied a crappy post-effect.

some nice sounding movements there,...

 
 By: G99 : October 23rd, 2013-01:29
some nice sounding movements there, especially the Patek as you would expect. surprisingly i couldnt hear the JLC at all. a great use of what would probably be put in the back of a drawer if left in its original pocketwatch case. enjoy Graham On 22 Oct 20... 

Great videos Thanks for sharing!

 
 By: Ancienne Le Brassus : October 23rd, 2013-14:58
I must say, while the Patek looks beautiful, the Haas takes the prize for me! Wonderful collection!! I hope it keeps growing and that you share with us the new pieces!! S

Brilliant!

 
 By: Zhege : October 22nd, 2013-06:39
What a great transformation - "pocket repeater" to "wrist listen". Well thought out and realized, congrats. The addition of a seconds indication would make it complete. Hope that works out. A question - how accurate is the watch, er, listen? It sounds lik... 

No idea, but I'd say about 1 minute to set the time

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-06:49
I only received the watch Listen this afternoon (French time), and I was busy taking the video. I tried to set the time, by looking at the central Minute Snail and counting how many turns it makes. 1 turn = 1 hour. Also, the Suprise piece allows me to cou... 

New link for the video

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-06:45
I had the bad idea to click YES when Youtube told me that the video was shaking and that it offered me to correct the problem. The result was terrible. Here is the video without the correction.

the video is great and shows the watch off very well.

 
 By: G99 : October 22nd, 2013-10:44
quite an impressive conversion, it would be great piece to wear and have fun with. do you happen to know the maker of the movement? i had a Longines minute repeater conversion until a few years ago, but it was just a bit too big for my liking. yours looks... 

No, there was no indication of the maker

 
 By: Origami : October 22nd, 2013-11:18
Nothing on the dial, nor on the movement.

Great case.

 
 By: xtype : October 22nd, 2013-12:14
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