Okay, you got me by your point with the pattern interferences!

Jun 29, 2018,11:25 AM
 

But I have to say you're really underestimating laser cutting and engraving. Thanks for your explanation!

  login to reply

Comments: view entire thread

 

How do we know the dial from AP isn't machine cut too?

 
 By: datograph : June 29th, 2018-09:58
Just because they say so, doesn't mean they do so. Just my controversial honest opinion.

Because they sell the watches so or so,

 
 By: raymond74 : June 29th, 2018-10:09
no need to lie or cheat the customers, besides on my steel diver you can see clearly a circular pattern

Physically, there's no feasible production process possible other than a rose-engine turning that can manufacture this kind of dial:

 
 By: skyeriding : June 29th, 2018-10:50
Vid for reference: Here's a macro pic (taken off WatchCollectingLifestyle website) for a nice closeup: By observing the image above and the vid reference, you will notice from the "Tapisserie" pattern that the "grooves" between each raised square follows...  

Okay, you got me by your point with the pattern interferences!

 
 By: datograph : June 29th, 2018-11:25
But I have to say you're really underestimating laser cutting and engraving. Thanks for your explanation!

There are different methods used to create the Royal Oak dials vs. the RO Offshore dials

 
 By: BjoernM21 : June 29th, 2018-10:28
When visiting the Audemars Piguet manufactory a room full of very old machines clacking away creating the Royal Oak dials can be seen. But the Tapisserie pattern is not made the same way Kari Voutilainen or Jochen Benzinger are creating guilloche dials, h...  

The AP petit tapisserie dials are now made by automated rose engines, and the mega tapisseries are (apparently) stamped.

 
 By: brandon1 : June 29th, 2018-15:35
Deployant did a nice photo tour of the dial factory recently. A quote from the article: "The early dials on the AP Royal Oak are what is known as Petit Tapisserie . These are made with the traditional rose engine to make the guilloché . This is a rather s...