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There were better quality watches for railroad and technical applications
Apr 21, 2009,08:34 AM
This was a presentation piece. In the 30s and 40s factories also produced a 15-jewel version of the Type-1 movement for industrial and military applications. A photo of a typical early 15-jewels railroad piece is attached. This one was made by the 1st Moscow Watch Factory - Kirov in 1938 (Q-3). It is inscribed on the back: "''Railway of Donetsk No. 18''. Donetsk, a large city in Eastern Ukraine on the Kalmius river, is the administrative center of Donetsk province.
There were also military versions of the Type-1 produced in the 30s. These had much more utilitarian cases and dials. In World War Two, Russian soldiers often referred to their Type-1 wristwatches as "Coffee Cans".
After World War Two, a series of technology infusions from LIP in France and from confiscated German factories (see earlier posts on the Type-59 Soviet UROFA-Tutima) resulted in a plethora of world class Soviet watch and clock movements. But that, as they say, is another story...
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Sometimes It's Worth Looking On The Other Side...
By: asiaassoc : April 21st, 2009-03:13
Sometimes it pays to look on the other side of things. For example, this pocket watch that I just received. It is a 7-jewel Type-1 pocket watch in a presentation case with floral bezel produced around 1935 by the First Moscow Watch Factory. The dial is si...
Type 1
By: MTF : April 21st, 2009-04:56
Mark, As these were Type 1 time pieces from the Commissar of Railways - no less - does it mean that they were top grade chronometers as required for the timing of railways? Regards, MTF
There were better quality watches for railroad and technical applications
By: asiaassoc : April 21st, 2009-08:34
This was a presentation piece. In the 30s and 40s factories also produced a 15-jewel version of the Type-1 movement for industrial and military applications. A photo of a typical early 15-jewels railroad piece is attached. This one was made by the 1st Mos...
Mark, were these basically copies of high quality swiss watches?
By: G99 : April 21st, 2009-14:40
from what i've seen of Soviet watches and their watch industry they are very good at buying high end swiss pieces then producing their own pieces which are the same, but without the finish. i had a Poljot deck watch which was identical to a UN Deck Chrono...
Previous USSR watch postings....
By: MTF : April 22nd, 2009-02:52
Check out previous postings about Mark's USSR collection: click here AND click here Please use PM for specific re-directions to other sources and materials. Regards, MTF...
my apologies MTF for referring...
By: G99 : April 22nd, 2009-03:11
my apologies MTF for referring to 'that auction site', but it was deliberately kept in very general terms. best Graham
Sorry Graham, You're Wrong...
By: asiaassoc : April 22nd, 2009-06:53
Graham -- Your characterization of Russian movements as poorly finished copies of Swiss calibers is both unfair and inaccurate. Firstly, while the Soviet’s did indeed import technology periodically from French, Swiss and German sources. It almost invariab...
Mark, i must apologise wholeheartedly.
By: G99 : April 22nd, 2009-11:30
in no way did i intend to demean the soviet watch industry. what i wrote was poorly written and not intended to sound as it did. when i refer to copies of Swiss movements i was only speaking from my limited knowledge. i was aware of their use of swiss pro...
No Worries...
By: asiaassoc : April 22nd, 2009-19:02
No worries, Graham. I took your comments in the positive spirit of discourse, as I am sure they were intended. Unfortunately, because I am in Singapore, our face-to-face will have to wait. In all fairness, I should also point out that the Soviets were not...
