Reference Guide
cbb initiates a detailed comparison of two Patek Philippe Grand Complications, the Ref. 5040 and Ref. 5041G, in honor of Chamnong Bhirombhakdi. This post highlights the subtle distinctions between these perpetual calendar tonneau-cased watches, prompting the community to share their insights on rarity and design nuances.
I must say these 2 References are quite similar with subtle differences that, for me, I have to look more than twice to distinguish them.
5040P, apparently only about 30 pieces made, sports Arabic numerals unlike 5040WG, 5040J and 5040R which has Breguet numerals. 35 mm Tonneau shaped case is a good size with bombe bezel.
But Iām quite surprised to learn that 5041G is even more rare, around 250 pieces made (according to auction house sources)! I believe it has thicker but flat bezel with smaller crown? Outer minutes ring is dotted as supposed to 5040 railroad track.
Do you PuristS know whether the 5041G is in fact more rare than 5040P ? What are your thoughts on these two references?
The Patek Philippe reference 5040 is a perpetual calendar wristwatch distinguished by its tonneau-shaped case. This reference was introduced as a notable addition to Patek Philippe's perpetual calendar offerings, providing an alternative to the more common round cases. It represents a specific aesthetic choice within the brand's complicated watch lineup, appealing to collectors who appreciate a less conventional case silhouette while retaining classic Patek Philippe horological functions. The 5040 was produced in various precious metals, each offering a distinct visual character.
The watch features a tonneau case, typically measuring 35mm in width and 43mm from lug to lug, housing the self-winding caliber 240 Q movement. This movement is known for its slim profile, achieved through the integration of a micro-rotor, and provides a power reserve of approximately 48 hours. The perpetual calendar mechanism displays the day, date, month, leap year cycle, and moon phases. The dial is protected by a sapphire crystal, and the movement is visible through a sapphire crystal exhibition case back.
The reference 5040 appeals to collectors seeking a Patek Philippe perpetual calendar with a distinctive case design. Its tonneau shape sets it apart from other perpetual calendar references, such as the 3940 or 5140. Variants of the 5040 were produced in yellow gold, rose gold, white gold, and platinum, often paired with dials in cream, silver, or black. The absence of a seconds hand is characteristic of this movement and design, focusing the display on the perpetual calendar indications.
I do know I'm blown away. I especially love the 5041. Thank you. M4
Just never had the courage to buy one!
the rarest is the 5040p with black Breguet numbers! Pic credit Internet Astorlive
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