Patek Philippe Tonneau Watches: Collector's Guide
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Patek Philippe Tonneau Watches: Collector's Guide

By anaroku · Jul 29, 2025 · 28 replies
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Anaroku's quest for the perfect tonneau-shaped Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar highlights the nuanced preferences that define high-horology collecting. His detailed comparison of references like the 5940, 5040, and 5140, focusing on elements such as hand design and the presence of a seconds hand, offers invaluable insights into the subtle distinctions that elevate a watch from merely beautiful to truly ideal for a discerning collector. This exploration underscores how personal aesthetics drive collecting decisions, even within Patek Philippe's esteemed perpetual calendar lineage.

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This is a 5940j that I once owned. I bought it because I was very attracted to the tonneau case and the cream-colored dial. However, the main reasons I ended up selling it were that it didn’t have a second hand (I'm picky about second hands on anything other than the Golden Ellipse) and the shape of the leaf hands (especially the 's') was too rough. It's puffy inside and I don't like it.




My ideal leaf hand is something like this. It has a great proportion.




After the 5940 was discontinued, I first saw the 5940g-010 in a Japanese department store and was fascinated by the bold black dial and the clear white lettering on it. However, the market price for the 5940 at the time had softened considerably, so I hesitated to buy it at the list price of over 10 million yen in Japanese yen.




I generally like white models, so of course I find the 5940g-001 to have a clean beauty. At the time, I asked a certain store if they could exchange it for my J, but they asked for a huge difference in price, so I gave up on getting it again. In any case, the lack of a second hand remains.




As you know, Patek Philippe has several pairs of round and tonneau cases equipped with the same movement. The most famous are the 3970 and 5020 (manually wound CH27-70), the 3940 and the 5040 (which have many variations), and the 5140 and 5940 (both 240Q). Of these, I like the case design of the 5940 the best.




I am very picky about having a second hand, and even the well-proportioned 5140 was a big sell for that reason, but the 5020 doesn’t appeal to me. It doesn't feel right on the wrist, and it's just too expensive.




This message has been edited by India Whiskey Charlie on 2025-07-29 01:29:03

About the Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar Ref. 5140

The Patek Philippe Reference 5140 is a perpetual calendar wristwatch, succeeding the highly regarded Reference 3940. It maintains the classic Patek Philippe perpetual calendar layout, featuring day, date, month, leap year, and moon phase indications. The 5140 was introduced with a slightly larger case diameter than its predecessor, reflecting contemporary preferences while retaining a traditional aesthetic.

This reference is powered by the ultra-thin self-winding Caliber 240 Q, known for its micro-rotor construction which allows for a slender case profile. The movement provides a power reserve of 48 hours. The watch is presented in 18k white gold, rose gold, or yellow gold cases, measuring 39 mm in diameter, and is fitted with a sapphire crystal. It offers water resistance to 30 meters.

The 5140 appeals to collectors seeking a modern perpetual calendar with a direct lineage to Patek Philippe's established complications. Its production run from 2006 to 2019 saw various dial configurations, including opaline and silvery finishes. The watch is typically paired with a leather strap and a deployant clasp, consistent with Patek Philippe's classic offerings.

Specifications

Caliber
240 Q
Case
18k White Gold, Rose Gold, or Yellow Gold
Diameter
39 mm
Dial
Opaline, Silvery
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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GL
GLau
Jul 29, 2025

Interesting to learn that the seconds hand is important to you ! Is this function important to you because of time measurement or aesthetic reasons ?

MD
mdg
Jul 29, 2025

...they are not the traditional 'leaf' hands. They are similar to the 5950A, but I think they look better on the 5950A. Japanese special editions are usually very beautiful and interesting as long as the price isn't too high.

MD
mdg
Jul 29, 2025

...but it is an important market, and some of the most beautiful limited editions from any manufacturer are for Japan...

WA
Watchlover42
Jul 29, 2025

Actualy I do like the missing second hand a lot. It somehow slows down and I'm retired and don't need the second information anymore 😉 I never recognized an issue with the leaf hands but understand your point. Considering size, proportion and esthetics for me personally the 5940 is the favorite classic PC

QU
quattro
Jul 29, 2025

The reference also exists with leaf hands, generally with painted Arabic numerals. But there is a very rare and, to my eyes, absolutely wonderful variant with a black dial and diamond indexes. Vacheron Constantin has also done a no-date, no-seconds hand version, ref. 31150 with Breguet numerals and textured dial. Best, Emmanuel credit: atelier tempus, antiquorum & arbitro

QU
quattro
Jul 29, 2025

with such a tonneau-cushion case and a seconds hand are the following ones. Best, Emmanuel Ref. 3585 www.watchprosite.com credit: analog shift Ref. 5950 & 5951 www.watchprosite.com Ref. 3670A www.watchprosite.com credit: @timvaux Ref. 5275P credit: antiquorum Ref. 5135 Ref. 5013 credit: antiquorum

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