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Luxury Watch Friday Wrist Check: Latest Collection

By holdemchamp1225 · Sep 8, 2023 · 36 replies
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holdemchamp1225's post ignited a passionate discussion within the WatchProSite community, delving into the ethics and market dynamics surrounding the resale of highly coveted independent watches. His frustration over a Grönefeld Grönograaf, one of only 25 Tantalum pieces, being flipped soon after delivery, highlights a tension between free commerce and collector allocation. This article explores the various perspectives on why such transactions occur and their implications for the enthusiast community.

First off, I would like to say it was a little sad to see 1 of the first Grönefeld Grönograaf pieces being SOLD so soon after someone received it. It was brought to my attention that #13 was recently sold and then RESOLD by Watchbox at a substantial premium.


I am for FREE commerce and enterprise but since the allocation of this piece was SO difficult and knowing how many passionate collectors wanted one of the 25 initial pieces in TANTALUM, it was disappointing to see one being flipped / sold so soon, especially since the brothers have NOT even delivered all of the 25 pieces 🙊🙉🙈


What I do not get is why this person would sell it to Watchbox when they could have given it back to Grönefeld to allocate to another collector and got there money back. Seeing what Watchbox sold it for and knowing how sales margins work, it seems the original buyer most likely sold it for around retail or slightly above (if we include all taxes, import, etc...). So the only people making money off the sale was Watchbox !! 🤬😔


I just don't get  it 😕 


Whatever, guess I am not suppose to understand. I love this piece and think it is uber cool and special. In the immortal words of Conor McGregor, "FOOK'em all." 🤣💪





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joenghenry
Sep 8, 2023

Is the strap made of snake skin? I am still wearing this panda on this Friday Cheers, Henry

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Lankysudanese
Sep 8, 2023

How did you come to find out that it was #13? Did WB reveal that to prospective buyers? That’s a rookie mistake on their part That being said, we never know the reasoning behind someone selling a coveted watch; I t’s not always for flipping purposes, so breaking even is probably the best that they wished for. Sometimes people would have fallen out of love with the piece, or wanted it in another metal (I believe that these will also be offered in titanium in the non-limited run), or just got a ca

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patrick_y
Sep 8, 2023

I wonder if Tim and Bart will avoid selling to this individual in the future?

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Cozmopak
Sep 8, 2023

There is absolutely no reason to have a big middleman like WatchBox standing in the way and profiting from these types of exchanges. Smaller dealers that you have personal relationships with still offer value in my opinion, but many (most) times dealing directly with collectors is the way to go.

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jaspermccrea
Sep 8, 2023

Someone will do it. Just the way of the world.

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Chronometer (aka yacomino)
Sep 8, 2023

Maybe something salmon sometime next week! 😎😎😎

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