Horological Community: Watch Enthusiast Meetup
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Horological Community: Watch Enthusiast Meetup

By Lankysudanese · Jul 6, 2022 · 11 replies
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Lankysudanese's account of his visit to the Grönefeld workshop offers a rare glimpse into the world of independent watchmaking. His narrative highlights the profound difference in client experience when engaging directly with the creators, a stark contrast to the often impersonal interactions at larger brand dealerships. This piece underscores the unique value proposition of independent horology, where personal connection and passion often supersede transactional dynamics.

Been off this forum for a while; hope that all are well

I’d messaged the Gronefeld’s back in November, to inquire if I can switch the strap on my 1941 Principia that’s on order. A long email thread ensued, during which I disclosed that I’d be visiting the Netherlands in July. Bart immediately extended an invite for a workshop tour, followed by lunch. He proposed July 6th, which was just another day for me. As the date came closer, they started flooding their instagram feed with teasers about their new offering. 

Well, long story short, I walked through the workshop door at the 11:51 AM, and Tim hit the send button on their official release at exactly noon-time, while Bart and I enjoyed a coffee outside of the main door, listening to the town clock bellow noon-time. We then waltzed to a local lunch spot, where we enjoyed a nice lunch as neighbors congratulated Bart on the new offering.

After lunch, we walked back, and I got a tour of the workshop, met the watchmakers and saw them finish and assemble Principia movements. I got to handle my first 1941 remontoire (the very last piece of the 188 total), and saw some other top secret projects before I was ushered upstairs to be the first non-Gronefeld employee/contractor to handle their newly announced 1941 Gronograph in tantalum

I’m not much of a photographer, but you’ll have to believe me that that thing is stunning. Long story short, I’ve put in my order for my second Grönefeld, before I even took delivery of my first!

Bart, Tim, their father and the rest of the employees were super kind and genuine. We laughed and poked fun at the trials and tribulations of modern-day watch-collecting, and the current Indie-collecting mania (well-deserved on their part). They confirmed the delivery date of my Principia, and offered to give me my special-order strap ahead of time (which I declined, for logistical reasons). It was then another round of warm handshakes, and I left with a massive grin on my face

It means a lot when you can have a genuine conversation with an award-winning watchmaker as they are launching a series which will net them upwards of 33 million euros in revenue, and yet Bart chatted with me about life, hobbies, family etc and ignord the barrage of emails and WhatsApp messages and random calls from around the world, from AD’s and collectors who are basically throwing their money at him. It was a stark contrast to the treatment from my local Rolex AD who won’t even take an OP 41mm out of a display case for me to try 😤

Thanks for reading, and hope all are well

Hussam

The famous clock tower 







Bart asking Tim were he placed the 1941 Grönograph




The last remaining Remontoire in the workshop 🤣🤣




Apologies for the terrible lighting. Bart also made it clear that this prototype isn’t finished to Gronefeld standards, yet. So blame the photographer, and not the watch




Amazing dial layout: pure theater, in my opinion






Bart was kind enough to ask for this wrist-shot to be airdropped to his phone. I’m sure that he was just flattering me


This message has been edited by patrick_y on 2022-07-07 15:44:12

About the Gronefeld Ref. 1941Remontoire

The Grönefeld 1941 Remontoire represents a significant offering from the independent Dutch watchmakers, Bart and Tim Grönefeld, showcasing their technical prowess and commitment to traditional horology. It was introduced as a flagship model, emphasizing precision and a distinctive aesthetic that blends classic watchmaking with contemporary design elements. The timepiece quickly garnered critical acclaim, notably winning the Men's Watch category at the Grand Prix d'Horlogerie de Genève (GPHG) in 2016, solidifying its position within the high-end independent watchmaking landscape.

Central to the 1941 Remontoire is its constant force mechanism, a remontoire d'égalité, visible at 9 o'clock on the dial. This system ensures a consistent supply of torque to the escapement, enhancing timekeeping accuracy by mitigating the diminishing force of the mainspring as it unwinds. The in-house developed Caliber G-05 features a 36-hour power reserve and operates at a frequency of 21,600 vibrations per hour (3 Hz). The movement is meticulously finished with polished bevels, frosted surfaces, and gold chatons, reflecting haute horlogerie standards. The case measures 39.5mm in diameter and 10.5mm in thickness, initially offered in white gold and rose gold, with later iterations including stainless steel.

For collectors, the Grönefeld 1941 Remontoire is highly regarded for its technical innovation, exceptional finishing, and the artisanal integrity of its creators. The limited production numbers and the personal connection of the Grönefeld brothers to their craft, rooted in generations of clock-keeping, add to its desirability. Early white gold models with salmon dials are particularly sought after, as are the later stainless steel versions featuring guilloché dials crafted by Kari Voutilainen and enamel accents, which represent a collaboration between esteemed independent watchmakers.

Specifications

Caliber
G-05
Case
White Gold, Rose Gold, Stainless Steel
Diameter
39.5mm
Dial
Salmon, Silver (guilloché)
Crystal
Sapphire

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analog_sheen
Jul 6, 2022

what a watch! congrats all around, that is a unique life experience!

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g_schroder
Jul 6, 2022

What a great experience and testament for the brand and owners. They are making some truly exceptional watches but it's nice to hear they're still very down to earth and enjoyable. This sentence really hit home as truth to me: "It was a stark contrast to the treatment from my local Rolex AD who won’t even take an OP 41mm out of a display case for me to try". Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Watchonthewrist
Jul 6, 2022

You nailed it with why these indie brands are so amazing and great . Looking forward to see your new Gronefeld,s pics when possible. A factory tour will always makes the nwa a bit more special imho

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jp884
Jul 6, 2022

Which is why I much prefer the indie's over the major houses. There is still that sense of appreciation from them, that comes from being a small business owner. Where you can literally have a personal conversation with the owners. I hope the shift from major houses to indies continues to grow as they deserve it.

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holdemchamp1225
Jul 6, 2022

Met them at Watches & Wonders in Geneva earlier this year and had the same impression as you. They are so down to earth and cool. No idea if you know about Green Tea Gate or how the brothers presented this Grönograaf to our group that was there. It was an unbelievable experience and one I will remember forever since it bonded our group with this particular piece (the Grönograaf) In any case, wish I would have known you were coming to Europe as it would be great to get together for a GTG 😉👍 Are y

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LiftAngle51
Jul 6, 2022

A Grönefeld is for ever. And good you turn your back to Rolex AD’s. I did the same. And i skip my plan to buy my first Cartier at that AD when i taste the arrogant behavior even through e-mail communication. I searched and found a watch trader with love for watches who have great Cartiers in stock and can order. But i made my definite next buy list: Padaaa, a Omega CK859 is serious on the next watch list. Nr 2 a Globemaster with green dial. Nr 3 a vintage railroad Bulova Accutron.

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