Greubel Forsey Solid Dial Complications
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Greubel Forsey Solid Dial Complications

By quattro · Sep 13, 2025 · 30 replies
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Emmanuel (quattro) challenges conventional Greubel Forsey aesthetics by spotlighting a rare solid-dial reference, the Double Tourbillon 30° Secret. This article delves into Emmanuel's preference for a discreet dial that reserves the horological spectacle for the caseback, prompting a fascinating discussion among collectors about the brand's design philosophy and the allure of hidden complications. His exploration offers a fresh perspective on a brand renowned for its open architecture.

Greubel Forsey is usually focused on displaying amazing complications and finishing on the dial side as well as on the back.

I wouldn't say that I love the dial of the Double Tourbillon 30° Secret shown below (I find it too utilitarian), but I like that it's solid (I'm not fond of open dials) and I love the movement displayed on the back.

The white gold case measures 43.5 x 15.84 mm. The dial is made of silvered-gold.

What do you think ?

Best, Emmanuel


Example made for Jean-Claude Biver (JCB)


















The 30° Double Tourbillon

Inside a cage which rotates in four minutes, the interior cage containing the balance and spring assembly is inclined at an angle of 30˚ relative to the first cage and completes a revolution in sixty seconds

The combination of the 30˚ inclination with the different rotational speeds of the two tourbillons improves timekeeping by averaging out positional errors due to gravity in all usual wristwatch positions and especially in stable positions.





Example no. 00/11




Example no. 07/11








Example no. 09/11




Press release











credit: Sjx (JCB), Greubel Forsey and MyWatchSite (Tourbillon), @garyg_1 (00/11), Christie's (07/11), @iso.chrono (09/11) & Episteme Vintage (Press release) 

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Cozmopak
Sep 13, 2025

But they are very large

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Marc Obermann
Sep 13, 2025

Whilst I actually like the dial except for the huge Double Tourbillon 30 degrees and "Un Tour 4 min" which personally I think is way too large and distracts from the fairly stark style of the dial. I think seeing a Tourbillon here instead would look much better and be far more visually pleasing, well at least for me it would be. But then what do I know if Jean-Claude Biver had a hand in its design this is most probably what he wanted. This would also be a great anti mugging watch as in white gol

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ChristianDK
Sep 13, 2025

I have great respect for this brand and their watches. They have a certain aesthetic and it’s not for my taste.

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Goh
Sep 14, 2025

But I like it, very nicely done dial. And you are bored, just flip over and the magic appears. 😁

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quattro
Sep 14, 2025

But a double 30° tourbillon takes some space! Best, Emmanuel

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quattro
Sep 14, 2025

But their watchmaking is absolutely first class nonetheless. And this Double Tourbillon is closer to my style and taste than their usual watches. That's why I chose to highlight it. Best, Emmanuel

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