Chopard and Patek Philippe: In Search of Excellence
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Chopard and Patek Philippe: In Search of Excellence

By MTF · Sep 12, 2018 · 12 replies
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My chance meeting with a silent purist watch aficionado revealed a commonality of spirit and ethos about many things in Life; one of which, is our love of watches. PPPPP or P-5 (Penang Patek Philippe Purist Pal) essentially has an extra 'P'...a deep Passion for watches. Although He-She-It has watche

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My chance meeting with a silent purist watch aficionado revealed a commonality of spirit and ethos about many things in Life; one of which, is our love of watches.
PPPPP or P-5 (Penang Patek Philippe Purist Pal) essentially has an extra 'P'...a deep Passion for watches.
Although He-She-It has watches from many brands, the primary focus is on Patek Philippe of many colours and complications; sometimes all the colours of one model!

Our conversation revolved around the drivers of our watch choices. Obviously, we both love chronographs as useful daily complications to sport on our wrists.
There is little call for minute repeaters in daily wear; one might say even too ostentatious to contemplate πŸ€”.
Although P-5 has many minute repeaters to only admire at home, as well as other multi complicated Patek Phiippe offerings.



We talked about our choice of watches made by family owned Manufactures like Chopard and Patek Philippe because they have a deeper commitment to quality and reliability.
When you are the only shareholders, you have an exquisite responsibility.
Thus, we have a mutual respect for both the Scheufele and Stern families that run Chopard and Patek Philippe respectively.


After the old Chopard BeeHive logo was abandoned, they declared "Formerly: BeeHive!" in the advertising

They are both families steeped in watchmaking from their foundations. 
The Sterns were dial suppliers before buying their ailing client Patek Philippe to protect the major outlet of their dials.
The Scheufeles were already makers of watches based in Pforzheim having abandoned jewelery making before World War 2.

In our opinion, they are the two most engaged watchmaking family owners in the world. As Chopard co-president Karl-Friedrich Scheufele said, "I care that every watch with the Chopard name on the dial performs well for its owner."

Both families bought their respective companies but they still have the the honour of the brand names in their hearts.
The Scheufeles have been watchmakers longer than the Sterns as Karl Scheufele Company was founded in 1904, whereas the Sterns bought into watchmaking business in 1932.
Both families have learnt much since those two dates.



EsZeHa watches by Karl Scheufele before Chopard ownership

Chronographs are the ultimate complication

Whilst customers may rave about complications like minute repeaters, perpetual calendars and tourbillons, the one that taxes the watchmakers is the chronograph because of the adjustments needed to make a truly good one, as adjudged by its pusher feel and action for start-stop-reset, not to mention additional features like flyback and split times.
Although, relatively "cheaper" than the fancier complications, the effort for manual adjustment by watchmakers is higher as the variation from piece to piece must be kept to a minimum. Other complications should work as long as the components are machined precisely by CNC machines. The user has nothing to judge precision unlike the chronograph pushers that transmit immediate feedback.

In the final analysis, we had great mutual respect for our choice of 'prefered supplier' of our hobby in both Patek Philippe and L.U. Chopard.
Both have leaders that have invested more than money into their legacies. With Thierry Stern and Caroline & Karl-Friedrich Scheufele at their helms, Patek Philippe and Chopard aficionados can rest assured about the guardians of their favourite brands.

Regards,
MTF
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patrick_y
Sep 12, 2018

I didn't know that they were into watchmaking so early on. I recalled they were in jewelry in Pforzheim, but I wasn't aware of their watchmaking prior to Chopard.

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sham1
Sep 13, 2018

I am glad you had the opportunity to meet a like minded purist in Penang!

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MTF
Sep 13, 2018

...but also for the vast knowledge of top eateries in Penang. We eschewed fancy restaurants and stuck to 'street food' that abounds on the "Pearl of the Orient". The only deficiency in Penang and Malaysia as a whole is the lack of sugar-free sodas like Diet Pepsi or Coke Zero at street vendors. Of course, after the massive overloads of cholesterol and calories from the food, any respite with a diet soda is welcomed. Patek Philippe World Time and GoS Winter Nights for Purists Char Koay Teow Nasi

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MTF
Sep 13, 2018

The Brief History of Chopard Time and Jewels part 1 below. Inside are the other links to the other 9 parts of the series. CLICK: www.watchprosite.com

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Tavio_George
Sep 13, 2018

That’s my favorite Patek, in my favorite iteration. Not sure who’s wearing the 5960 but huge congrats. Of course it goes without saying that the other pieces pictured are tremendous!

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MTF
Sep 13, 2018

Don't pay extra if you can't tell the difference! MTF

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