hi Art, no problem posting the PMs below. I can also post email threads as well since this person also listed this exact 5712/1A on Watchnet and like I said, I have tried to contact him 6 or 7 times

Jul 17, 2018,15:29 PM
 

please see below. I have no idea if I am doing this properly or not but I will try and leave out phone numbers and email addresses as per the rules. His user ID prior to being BANNED was "yourppman" which is the same user ID he uses on Watchnet and elsewhere. We, as a community, have to WEED out these scammers as best we can. There are others that post here and on the vaious other forums which are highly suspicious and I have no idea how we let them get away with it.



to: yourppman  - - On March 19th, 2018 at 02:44    
Hi again, 

I have contacted you 6 or 7 times here on PP and also on WN for this Patek. You stated it was on hold in October or November of last year and here I see it listed again as available. Please read my previous message to you below as I have copied and pasted it so there is no misunderstanding. 

I do not understand. Now the watch is on hold? 
I asked for a bill of sale between you and I, not the original bill of sale. This is to transfer the title of ownership like signing over the title of a car. 

In any case, if it is on hold then fine BUT I do not want to see it continually listed here and watchnet if it is indeed on hold. I am a SERIOUS buyer who has tried to contact you at least 5 times for this watch since this summer and have repeatedly not received a reply. I have documented ALL of our correspondence which I could forward to you or any of the moderators here without a problem as I know some of them. 

Keep me updated. Like I said, I can meet in London or Paris (you stated London) for a face to face and can pay YOUR ASKING PRICE with ZERO negotiations so no idea why you would refuse. 

Please contact me directly at +33 xxx 128 xxx which is also my WhatsApp number or give me a number where I can reach you. Thanks 

Regards, 
B
to: yourppman  - - On November 10th, 2017 at 12:17    
I do not understand. Now the watch is on hold? 
I asked for a bill of sale between you and I, not the original bill of sale. This is to transfer the title of ownership like signing over the title of a car. 

In any case, if it is on hold then fine BUT I do not want to see it continually listed here and watchnet if it is indeed on hold. I am a SERIOUS buyer who has tried to contact you at least 5 times for this watch since this summer and have repeatedly not received a reply. I have documented ALL of our correspondence which I could forward to you or any of the moderators here without a problem. 

Keep me updated. Like I said, I can meet in London or Paris (you stated London) for a face to face and can pay YOUR ASKING PRICE with ZERO negotiations so no idea why you would refuse. 

Regards, 
B
from: yourppman  - - On November 10th, 2017 at 11:46    
Hi. The watch is on hold. Take care. 

On Friday, November 10, 2017, 7:50:31 PM GMT+1, Member holdemchamp1225 from Watchprosite < [Email address suppressed for privacy] > wrote: 

hi Serin,

I have tried contacting you several times for a meeting in London without a response. I also ask to speak on the phone with you, again without a response.

Could you please reply to this message? You can also contact me directly at +33 xxx 128 xxx which is also my whatsapp number.

I can meet and pay your asking price of $30,000 (equivalent in euros) in cash or by wire. Thanks.

Final thing, there will be NO shipping as I prefer to inspect the watch in person to make sure all is legit. I will also ask for a bill of sale to show transfer of ownership as well as a copy of your ID. Of couse I will provide the same in return.

Cheers,
B
from: yourppman  - - On November 10th, 2017 at 11:46    
Why do you need certificate of ownership if you ask for ID, which is not a problem at all. I don't have a bill, the only thing I have got is original tags with European retail price. Either way. Have a good night. 
Vasilij Serin

On Friday, November 10, 2017, 7:50:31 PM GMT+1, Member holdemchamp1225 from Watchprosite < [Email address suppressed for privacy] > wrote: 

hi Serin,

I have tried contacting you several times for a meeting in London without a response. I also ask to speak on the phone with you, again without a response.

Could you please reply to this message? You can also contact me directly at +33 xxx 128 xxx which is also my whatsapp number.

I can meet and pay your asking price of $30,000 (equivalent in euros) in cash or by wire, I do prefer cash if possible so please let me know. Thanks.

Final thing, there will be NO shipping as I prefer to inspect the watch in person to make sure all is legit. I will also ask for a bill of sale to show transfer of ownership as well as a copy of your ID. Of couse I will provide the same in return.

Cheers,
B

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FS: Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712/1A

 
 By: revolut.ltd : July 17th, 2018-10:57
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Mods, this is the SAME BANNED seller with new photos and probably new IP address...

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : July 17th, 2018-11:23
this person, Vasilij Serin, has been listing THIS Patek 5712/1A WELL BELOW market price for OVER 1 year on WN and here on WatchProSite under a different pseudo. Now he invents a totally different company and if you search the address provided in the UK yo... 
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I don't need any pseudo

 
 By: revolut.ltd : July 17th, 2018-11:57
That's my name. Why would I post my name here if I would have planned something. Few months back moderator asked me to take tag picture because of your comments and I had no time to do it. Later saw my name in the black list for no reason. This is not the... 
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more accurate with words

 
 By: revolut.ltd : July 17th, 2018-12:06
Bruce, I would have thought at your place before writing a discriminating post next to the name of my company. I watch you do not get over it. You have nothing to do? Arrogant prickster.
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Would you mind posting the e-mails here, Champ? . . .

 
 By: Dr No : July 17th, 2018-13:58
. . . that should end this matter once and for all. Thanks, Art
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And a photo

 
 By: tactictac : July 17th, 2018-14:05
of the watch at 9h27 !!!
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Holdemchamp isn [nt]

 
 By: Dr No : July 17th, 2018-14:19
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Holdemchamp isn't claiming to have possession of the Patek . . .

 
 By: Dr No : July 17th, 2018-14:20
. . . so he can't post a photo at a prescribed time. Art
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hi Art, no problem posting the PMs below. I can also post email threads as well since this person also listed this exact 5712/1A on Watchnet and like I said, I have tried to contact him 6 or 7 times

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : July 17th, 2018-15:29
please see below. I have no idea if I am doing this properly or not but I will try and leave out phone numbers and email addresses as per the rules. His user ID prior to being BANNED was "yourppman" which is the same user ID he uses on Watchnet and elsewh...  
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Thanks very much! [nt]

 
 By: Dr No : July 17th, 2018-15:47
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I thought we closed the subject.

 
 By: serin : February 10th, 2019-08:45
Now I understand why I can not sell anything.
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Hello Art

 
 By: serin : March 3rd, 2019-12:20
Sorry for bothering but could you please explain me why this alert is still online? Please PM me. Thank you.
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