Some other important thoughts Emilio!!!!

Jan 07, 2010,19:24 PM
 

Thank you very much for your pictures, I didn't noticed these hands before, smile but I was sure that this kind of hands must have existed Emilio, because the 2003 anniversary edition uses the same (but only the true 'series 1' edition)!!




What I do not understand is that, in the "Lettres du Brassus No.3" from Blancpain, they show a different Blancpain model beeing the first ever released! Here the original text from the magazine: -------- Finally, however, the two French naval officers came into contact with Mr. Fiechter of Blancpain. With Fiechter’s personal passion for and fascination with diving, he needed little convincing. Blancpain quickly agreed to develop the timepiece for the Ecole des nageurs de combat (Combat Diving School) which Maloubier and Riffaud commanded. Maloubier describes his first meeting with Blancpain: “Finally a small watch company, Blancpain, agreed to develop our project which envisioned a watch with a black dial, bold large numerals and clear markings: triangles, circles, squares; a rotatable exterior bezel which repeated the markings of the dial. We wanted at the start of a dive to be able to set the bezel opposite the large minute hand in order to mark the time. We wanted each of the markings to shine like a star for a shepherd.” -------- The French Combat Divers Fifty Fathoms was the first ever released professional diving watch by Blancpain, with triangles, circles and squares but without the 3/6/9/12 indexes!!! It had the common hands without the radium triangle to the extreme, a big crown, the big triangle bezel, the non-aligned Rotomatic-Incabloc writings and the most significent feature (IMO the first big 'mistake' by Blancpain) THE NUMBER 30 IN THE BEZEL WAS WRONGLY INVERTED!!!!!!!!! Why Blancpain did not copy this very first Maloubier/Riffaud Fifty Fathoms for the anniversary edition? I am certain that the 2003 edition was a copy of the first 'official - civilian' Blancpain Fifty Fathoms?




It's so hard to get through it!! I am sure that the hands on my FF are not replaced. I think that it was made specially like that, because in professional diving, after setting the bezel, only the minute hand is important, so only this one needs special luminous parts to the extreme !! But there is still the aligned dial on my FF, was this made between the Maloubier/Riffaud and the first official FF or later or was it ordered specialy like that by another military unit? Was it a prototype before the first official FF or was it simply a later model of the FF? If yes, why Blancpain changed the writings on the dial? By the way, the official name of the 41mm diameter version was " Fifty Fathoms PG1" and was offered from 1956 to 1964 in the german dive catalogue from Barakuda for the price of 198-228 DM (Deutsche Mark) The 34mm version was named Fifty Fathoms PF1 and was offered for exactly the same price as his big brother, but was available until 1966 (price raised up to 246 DM in '66). I still don't know what PF1 and PG1 stands for :-(




You see Emilio, sometimes I wish I would collect stamps! That would be much easier! ;-) best, my friend ----- P.S. Sorry and Thank you Jeff for using/stealing your picture smile This message has been edited by claude.f on 2010-01-07 19:31:21


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My vintage BP collection. Part 1: Fifty Fathoms

 
 By: claude.f : January 7th, 2010-06:21
The FF was one of the first, if not the first, professional bezel dive watch! I think that it is not necessary to resume the history of this breathtaking tool watch for you, because you all know the background of this legendary timekeeper. So let's fly ov...  

Interesting observations and a ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : January 7th, 2010-07:09
cool vintage watch to look at. Thanks for sharing with us and I am looking forward the next part. May I ask one question: Does it bother you that BLANCPAIN is not a big help for doing research about their vintage pieces? Cheers Oliver

No Oliver, it does not bother me at all...

 
 By: claude.f : January 7th, 2010-07:40
First of all, thank you very much for your kind words!!! I understand very well that Blancpain has no interest in putting money and time in vintage watches. They have to look forward and they must try to survive in this hard world of 'exclusive timekeeper... 

I would have to disagree.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : January 7th, 2010-14:22
I think that Blancpain should take time & effort to help vintage collectors.... A long history should be supported..... My 2 cents.... Cheers

Interesting POV´s and ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : January 8th, 2010-13:54
thanks for your frank asnwer. From my POV, I would applaud more interest in their heritage. Should be a real asset, for both . They don´t have to burn money, because of taking care about vintage watches. Some of the "best" competitors are able to do so an... 

I agree with both of you, Oliver and PP, but ....

 
 By: claude.f : January 8th, 2010-17:16
I am sure that nowadays BP not have many informations about their vintage FF's. I also believe that the most watches were made by order in the past, and that there exist such a variety of different models that it is nearly impossible, even for them, to ge... 

Now that's a great catch, Claude.

 
 By: amanico : January 7th, 2010-07:23
These 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 dials are sublime, and among my favourite in the FF Family. Sincerely, you did well to take it. The good thing with these Vintage FF is that you have to do a lot of homework before getting one. But it will always remain a part of Myst... 

I will release the other one shortly!

 
 By: claude.f : January 8th, 2010-03:54
Please be patient a little more ;-) Thanks a lot for your encouraging words!! HAGWE my friend!! best

Now that's a gorgeous Civilian Milspec, Claude!

 
 By: amanico : January 8th, 2010-04:58
Congrats, my friend, and welcome to the Club! That's a beautiful catch... Wow, I'm very happy for you, Claude. Best, Nicolas

Civilian Milspec! That's what I first thought, but....

 
 By: claude.f : January 8th, 2010-06:01
non drilled lugs and microbillé case speaking against a civilian version! Big crown and dial speaking against military version! The small crown version also got provided by professional dive shops like MAR-VEL. A marriage watch?! Absolutely not!!!!! I hav... 

The Civilian Milspecs came with the microbillé case, also.

 
 By: amanico : January 8th, 2010-06:07
And very few of them were used as Military watches. Non drilled lugs, but fixed bars? Here again, I know some military Milspecs with non fixed bars. Big crown? Most of the Military Milspecs came with the small crown, as well as the TR 900. So, the big cro... 

Thanks a lot for your help Nicolas!!! :-)

 
 By: claude.f : January 8th, 2010-06:41
Personnaly I don't care if it's a military or a civilian version! They both rock!!! ;-) best Claude

Can't agree more, mostly if we speak about such great specimen!

 
 By: amanico : January 8th, 2010-06:43
Can't wait to see your other pics on this marvel. I'm really in love with! Best, Nicolas

What a nice and great post, Claude!

 
 By: E.J. : January 7th, 2010-14:42
I´ve enjoyed the reading a lot, my friend. Your research work made is impressive, for our pleasure reading it and admiring such a nice and cool early FF. Huge congrats for your watch and for the work made. Searching the net, I´ve found an earliest FF (Lip...  

Some other important thoughts Emilio!!!!

 
 By: claude.f : January 7th, 2010-19:24
Thank you very much for your pictures, I didn't noticed these hands before, but I was sure that this kind of hands must have existed Emilio, because the 2003 anniversary edition uses the same (but only the true 'series 1' edition)!! What I do not understa...  

You see, Claude... how many answers around those amazing FF!

 
 By: E.J. : January 8th, 2010-12:54
And, Imo, it´s an important thing that mades these watches so beautiful, so rares and so craziest! Because we become crazy people collecting and searching all the infos (no more infos) that are around this marvels. Yours is an awesome watch... I´... 

Great post !

 
 By: DrStrong : January 8th, 2010-01:23
and nice example of an early FF, the most beautiful to me ! Cheers Jeff

Thanks a lot Jeff!!

 
 By: claude.f : January 8th, 2010-03:51
I adore the earlier FF also, they are such great pieces!! HAGWE my friend!! Best P.S. Hope you're not angry because I posted a picture from your site earlier?

who knows more about these Aqualungs

 
 By: fifty fathoms : January 9th, 2010-13:16
Thanky you . The story of the FF is very interesting. For years I collect pictures from the www ( ebay, forum, sellers and so on). I found thes pictures from the Fifty Fathoms aqualung. With their wide luenette the aqualung look much more older than the f...  

Hey Stephan...

 
 By: claude.f : January 9th, 2010-18:22
The Aqua Lung was the US version of the Fifty Fathoms and only sold in the States. I must dissapoint you Stephan, but I am sure that the 1000 feet was released later. The 50 Fathoms (like the name says) was the first 100m waterresistant diving watch besid... 

respect

 
 By: fifty fathoms : January 10th, 2010-07:39
Thank you Claude and respect for your knowledge !. Yes it helps me a lot. The AquaLung with its wide bezel has its own charme. There are so many Fifties I would to "finger" one time ! best regards Stephan

Thankyou Claude.. :-)

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : January 27th, 2010-03:19
For a great and insightful presentation... I like the secrets or divergencies .. I am still short of a Blancpain divers, but I am everyday getting closer to a purchase tdue to articles like yours Best Hans