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Difference between 5712 2009 Geneva seal and 5712 2014 PP seal 😊❤️❤️❤️

Nov 22, 2017,09:23 AM
 

2009 vs 2014 difference 5712

#5712 #patekcollector

Dark blue/Black vs darker blue/Black

Screw bracelets vs pin bracelet

123gram vs 125 gram

Geneva Seal vs PP seal

Yellow tan interior box vs white Tan interior box

Gold brand leather booklet vs Silver brand leather booklet

Philippe Stern Signature vs Thierry Stern Signature 

Old manual and document vs New manual and document

White ribbon vs dark brown ribbon in other box





























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Good comparison!

 
 By: patrick_y : November 22nd, 2017-10:43
Nice to know. Biggest difference is obviously the bracelet. Regarding the bracelet, the screw system is more expensive for Patek Philippe to produce and is generally considered more secure than the "hammered out friction pin system." You've got a keen eye... 

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 By: PalmSprings : November 22nd, 2017-11:55
Thanks for the explanation. It's a bit weird though to be moving from screws to pins, especially on watches like this. I'm not a fan of pins myself.

I have a couple of Patek Nautilus and here is come problem with screw

 
 By: Siamcollector : November 29th, 2017-09:42
-after year of unservice the screw is very difficult to remove even after hair dryer. -if you are not pro you may scratch your watch -Screw have their life time and more expensive to replace IMO I like screw but pin is more practical in the long run (espe...  

I definitely had screw problems too...

 
 By: patrick_y : November 30th, 2017-12:35
Patek Philippe at the factory too much Loctite (powerful glue for screw threads) once on a brand new Nautilus 5712 with screws in its bracelet and it was impossible for me to get it out with a screwdriver. In the end, after breaking three (!!!) screwdrive... 

Any difference in the dials?

 
 By: patrick_y : November 22nd, 2017-10:47
Any difference in the dials that have changed over the years? The horizontal stripes on the dial may change a little bit. Sometimes the power reserve dots have changed a bit from the 3712 to the 5712. The moonphase changed a bit; one has a shiny moonphase... 

Your right I notice early 2006 have a other layer in the stars while the new one 2017 and even one from 2006 doesn’t have.

 
 By: Siamcollector : November 29th, 2017-09:46
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Perfect! Thanks for sharing this photo! Much appreciated! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : November 30th, 2017-12:31

Thanks for an interesting comparison !

 
 By: GLau : December 1st, 2017-04:55
Do you love them the same ? If not, which one do you like more and why ? Cheers, Gordon