a very interesting and pertinent post. Some observations...

May 09, 2010,07:32 AM
 

Firstly congratulations on owning such a marvelous watch as the Datograph. I also congratulate you on owning a beautiful enamel 3313 Speedmaster and sharing with us some of it's great qualities. In fact, a tuned caliber 3313 is deadly. Indeed, my wife's 3313 regularly beats my Daytona and Hour Vision annual calendar in accuracy tests I've done. A well regulated and running 3313 is a source of great pleasure to every owner. I envied my wife's 3313 deville, while wearing my Daytona, for a very long time.

The blind prejudice against any Speedmaster not having the title of 'professional' is ridiculous. There are innumerable Speedmaster models with various different movements. To choose one and say, 'that is the only one', is only prejudice. Just to prove just how much this is a prejudice, it should be pointed out that the moon watch is neither the original speedmaster, nor is the movement, and lol, neither is 'professional'. People should also be reminded that the 861 is a down grade from the 321 with plastic parts added. Omega have only themselves to blame that the Daytona is seen, quite rightly, as the number one sports chronograph on the market. The Speedmaster should really occupy this place, but it doesn't and it's all Omega's fault for cheapening the Speedmaster (after all, THAT was their intent).  Mark, I have to say that your enamel 3313 Speedy is one of the nicest Speedies ever made. You need make no apologies for your splendid speedy.

Today, in 2010, Maddox comes across as a troll. His views are today irrelevant. 


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In Defense of Omega 3313 Movement: Amazing Accuracy

 
 By: markieesq : May 8th, 2010-14:05
Greetings: I recently purchased the Co-axial Enamel Speedmaster. I also own a Speedy from 1972, my very first watch which is very dear to me. I was very reluctant to purchase this watch. I had read all the negative press about this movement. I read what t... 

a very interesting and pertinent post. Some observations...

 
 By: Pistol Pete : May 9th, 2010-07:32
Firstly congratulations on owning such a marvelous watch as the Datograph. I also congratulate you on owning a beautiful enamel 3313 Speedmaster and sharing with us some of it's great qualities. In fact, a tuned caliber 3313 is deadly. Indeed, my wife's 3... 

I Was Not Apologizing For The Enamel

 
 By: markieesq : May 9th, 2010-09:33
Pete: Thanks for your thoughtful response to my post. My 1972 Speedy is the 861 which is (IMHO) a down-grade from the 321. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what make the Speedy a "Professional". That is what makes these forums so... 

thanks Mark,

 
 By: Pistol Pete : May 9th, 2010-17:59
It was the sentence,'Of course the purists here can debate whether the enamel should be called a Speedmaster, etc' that made me feel that you were needlessly defensive and apologetic about your Speedmaster. I know and you know that you never uttered the w... 

In defense of the deceased...

 
 By: Ruckdee : May 10th, 2010-04:07
I am quite shocked and saddened to see such an angry opinion against Chuck. "Bloody mindedness over the course of a lifetime?" Come on... He doesn't deserve this. To disagree with Chuck or anyone is one thing. We all have the right to our own opinion and ... 

In defence of the living

 
 By: Pistol Pete : May 10th, 2010-08:15
I couldn't agree more that banning is justified when disagreements become personal attacks against members. I think you need to be reminded that Maddox is neither a member or a person any more. I find your entire post to be on the level of this blunder. I... 

Pete you have no defence.....

 
 By: Bill Sohne : May 10th, 2010-20:44
Hi Pete That is what Chuck would have said to you... please see me new post. omega.watchprosite.com Bill Sohne

Some told you politely, I will do it bluntly...

 
 By: mac_omega : May 11th, 2010-12:09
Hi Pete, disregard the content and topic - I do not like your style... Either you try to write and argue in a style where nobody must feel offended - otherwise it would be better to stay away from this forum! There are other fora... maybe they like your r... 

Having read everything you said...

 
 By: Ruckdee : May 12th, 2010-04:54
... I think it is in the best interest of the forum for me to keep my silence. I have no intention of provoking you and I am sorry if anything I said caused you this much anger. Peace. Ruckdee

Everything can be discussed in a polite way, Pistol Pete.

 
 By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-04:23
You ask a good question, which comes over the only Speedmaster: " Is a toolwatch still a toolwatch if it receives some sophistications ". You gave your point of view in a well argumented way, BUT, to me, it was useless to say what you said about Chuck Mad... 

Congratulations on the accuracy of your watch.

 
 By: Ruckdee : May 10th, 2010-03:31
It is almost spot on indeed. And, yes, many people (myself included) tend to refer to the reviews and/or the opinions originated from the time this family of movements was still in its glitchy infancy stage. Ruckdee

Thank You Ruckdee

 
 By: markieesq : May 11th, 2010-20:00
With all the side issues involved with this thread, my original post somehow got lost. I thank you for your kind words. It's a nice feeling to put on a watch and really enjoy wearing it. And the nice thing is that people can get that enjoyment at price po... 

My pleasure, Mark.

 
 By: Ruckdee : May 12th, 2010-05:08
I know exactly what you mean. There is a local forum in my language that I frequent. All the members would discuss anything from a Seiko to a Philippe Dufour and beyond. The only problem seems to be that one watch is never enough. Not with all those stimu...