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My watches value for money will be about any watches
May 12, 2009,09:57 AM
I forget about their worth values.
In this I am lucky because most of the watches I own are watches of which their market values is an hidden interest but not the reason I chose then for. Mind you for some of the pieces I own the acquisition price was an issue… of course (I am was born with a gold spoon in my mouth)
So watches like JLC MMR, Parmigiani Hebdomadaire, Citizen Pro Master, Jaeger LeCoultre Amvox 1R, Panerai PAM 190, Rolex Deep Sea, Vacheron Constantin Excellence Perpetual Calendar and many others … are to me watches that are worth their initial cost because they give me pleasure that makes me totally forget their blood cost.
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Value for money ...
By: AndrewD : May 11th, 2009-02:38
Hi All, I am interested to hear which watch in your collection you feel has provided the greatest value for money . I am not placing any restrictions on this. You can interpret ‘value for money’ in any way you wish and at any price point. While not cheap ...
I guess ALL our watches are value for money, Andrew
By: amanico : May 11th, 2009-03:34
Because, if they weren't, we wouldn't include them in our collection, don't you think? Well, here I will only focus on 3 watches which are, TO ME, real value for money: 1/ Without any surprise, the JLC MMR: Not only a great, original watch and a bargain, ...
The more.....
By: MiniCooper : May 12th, 2009-19:30
I see your JLC MMR, the more I admire it I enjoyed your report that you posted on your watch some weeks ago I hope that your are enjoying it cheers
I'm completely crazy about it, Pink Panther
By: amanico : May 12th, 2009-23:00
That is the jewel of my collection, indeed. And be sure that I ejoy every minute I wear it. Best, and thanks for your nice words! Nicolas
Value for money is of course very subjective,but...
By: jlux : May 11th, 2009-03:51
...from all the watches in my collection it is this Chopard Luc Twist that gets my vote: The finishing of both the white gold case and the movement (with Geneva seal) is stunning and equal to most of what I have seen from other high-end watch companies. T...
Chopard twist
By: BrianS : May 11th, 2009-09:22
That is a stunning piece. I want one! Congrats
Speedmaster?
By: vernon : May 11th, 2009-04:19
Andrew, Good post. I'd suggest the Omega Speedmaster as a good candidate and suspect that you may agree judging by your post elsewhere ;o) Whether modern (although the new price has gone up a bit I think) or vintage i think they offer great value. Regards...
I can’t disagree with you, Vernon …
By: AndrewD : May 11th, 2009-15:07
If one measure of ‘value for money’ is versatility, then the Speedmaster delivers. I kid myself that I can ‘dress down’ the La Tradition and wear it with jeans, but really it is a flashy dress watch. The Speedy is as close to a ...
VFM
By: fnk : May 11th, 2009-04:28
I call this my Poor Persons' PP 5970 fnk...
Interesting question...
By: Tony C. : May 11th, 2009-06:48
given that I only collect vintage watches, I have found that there are two possible categories of "good value". The first would be that rare circumstance under which the seller of the watch simply does not recognize its true value. The second, and more in...
Touché . . .
By: Dr No : May 11th, 2009-22:17
. . . and fully agreed, Tony . . . cordially, Art
Fine selection of Seikos
By: mrsnak : May 12th, 2009-19:47
A certainly a great value. Love my old 6309. Need to get a Grand Seiko.
One standout in my collection
By: Ginger : May 11th, 2009-13:56
There are a lot of ways to view this from the point of view of a vintage collector Getting an absolutely NIB perfect vintage watch that you have been seeking is value for money, even if you have to pay a considerable price for it. And then there are some ...
In my case...
By: E.J. : May 11th, 2009-14:09
after some years buying watches that finally gone out home, I think that the members of my actually family are value for money... 1) A new watch, a rare watch if you can say it, but a great pleasure to wear... an actual and future rare bird... 2) A stunni...
The sentimental value is the best, Emilio
By: amanico : May 11th, 2009-20:53
It is truely one of the biggest reason which explains why you keep a watch... Tastes can change, but not this reason. Well said, my friend. Eeeh, by the way, what did I read? You may consider adding anotherr FF in your collection??? It recalls me a conver...
True Nicolas
By: E.J. : May 12th, 2009-14:51
One of the biggest reason which explains why I keep a watch is the sentimental feeling that I have with it. There are another feelings too, but this one is important.... all of us have a sentimental feeling with one or more of our watches, and it doesn´t ...
On the same line, Emilio.
By: amanico : May 12th, 2009-22:39
As for the Blancpain FF, take yout time...Giving it a brother normally requires 9 months. Best, Nicolas
beautiful .....
By: MiniCooper : May 12th, 2009-19:36
makes me want to get a vintage FF cheers
Thanks my friend...
By: E.J. : May 13th, 2009-13:51
if you choose a vintage FF... you´ll do well!. A watch that will give you moments of pleasure. Best Emilio.
Easy for me ...
By: bimbeano : May 11th, 2009-15:10
Since i have not a lot to choose from i can consider these four watches as good value for money ... The two old Alpina's on top i should say ... ridiculisly low in price but accurate to less than half a minute per week ... and some kind of history ... A S...
Yes, Filip
By: amanico : May 11th, 2009-20:56
Agree on your selection. I think that I shoudl have included the Longines in my selection, because this was the watch which the ùore amazed me by its ratio quality / price. Best, my other Hermano! Nicolas
Héhe
By: bimbeano : May 12th, 2009-03:45
I think your biggest problem is to try and remember what watches you have in stock ... LOL You're a lucky B .... Filip
I'm with Filip on this one...
By: dxboon : May 11th, 2009-23:44
...the Longines Legend Diver is the best buy out there right now in terms of the amount of watch you get vs. the money you fork over to purchase it (IMO only, of course). Cheers, Daos...
Vintage Omegas
By: BDLJ : May 11th, 2009-16:28
Particularly the 55x or 56x calibres. Magnificent movements and still very affordable.
Yes, 18k Omega Constellation...
By: mokling : May 12th, 2009-02:32
... for about USD1,000. Every parts are original except the leather strap. Says who "good things are not cheap, cheap things are not good"? Regards Ling
Breguet for me
By: AT : May 11th, 2009-18:53
From the AD experience to the details of the watches, I feel that Breguet is the best value for the money. Not talking about resale value here but buying a piece of luxury and beautiful craft.
This may get me thrown off this forum
By: mrsnak : May 11th, 2009-19:45
But tradition, proprietary movement, and so many other things aside, this has been keeping to +-5 seconds a day, has a quite nice fit and finish and is 1/60th the price of the cheapest Breguet. Seagull 2504 movement. A lot of value for the money on a fund...
RED ALERT ! RED ALERT !!!!
By: bimbeano : May 11th, 2009-22:18
Moderators, please kick this one off ... LOLOLOL ... . mrsnak, technically spoken, you're right. An accuracy like that for that price gives you the best value for money ... and a Tourbillon also !!! Best, Filip
In some ways....
By: BDLJ : May 11th, 2009-22:54
Timex could be said to have more tradition than some of the re-invented brands. VFM, for sure. Now I need to post a photo of the the 6105-8110 Seiko I got for nothing....infinite value for money.
Not a doubt in my mind, Andrew . . .
By: Dr No : May 11th, 2009-22:50
. . . it's gotta be the Karree Panodate . . . . . . because this movement, in my humble opinion . . . . . . is quite special at the asking price . . . cordially, Art...
Nice one, Art!
By: dxboon : May 11th, 2009-23:37
This is an excellent choice IMO! A great-looking watch! Daos
Art, this one is absolutely beautiful.
By: jlux : May 12th, 2009-01:48
You are right to say that the movement is gorgeous. This black dial version is very high on my wish list (as "unfortunately" quite a few of the GO offerings...). Regards, Gerard
this is...
By: MiniCooper : May 12th, 2009-19:40
a manual movement, is that correct? Very elegant cheers
What about Rolex?
By: vernon : May 12th, 2009-02:02
hello again! I've noticed lately on my travels that some sports Rolex that not so long ago you either had a very long wait for or had to pay a premium if you wanted one quickly now seem to be openly available in dealers windows (Green sub, Deepsea, Explor...
i hate to disagree with you Vernon, but i dont believe any Rolex is VFM
By: G99 : May 12th, 2009-03:58
take the sub for example. there are hundreds of examples of divers watches that are as accurate, have same or better depth rating with excellent finish for far less money. forget the in-house movement, its not relevant, forget the history, Landrover lived...
It was only a passing thought.....
By: vernon : May 12th, 2009-04:19
Graham, No need for apologies - I was sort of being devils advocate by suggesting this - wanted to see what the reaction was!! The MIH is a very good suggestion for this thread though so no arguments from me - always pops up when value is discussed. See y...
Understood, Thomas - perhaps the category of 'vfm' . . .
By: Dr No : May 12th, 2009-09:19
. . . should be broken down to 'ovfm' and 'svfm' - objective and subjective vfm, respectively. In purely objective terms, the Karree Panodate is a typical current production model with average residual value, putting it at the mid to low end of vfm. My re...
Good to separate …
By: AndrewD : May 12th, 2009-21:34
Thanks Thomas and Art, y ou have helped focus my thinking on this. It is helpful to separate out the more objective aspects (materials used, fit and finish reflecting workmanship, resale value, etc.) from the subjective aspects (emotional reactions, beaut...
I agree--MIH is my pick
By: expwmbat : May 12th, 2009-05:23
I don't think this watch can be beat for the money--incredible combination of complications, created by horological geniis, simple and superb design, and absolutely wearable no matter the circumstances. Cheers, Daniel...
Don't agree
By: foversta : May 12th, 2009-15:33
For me Rolex has an excellent value for money. At least because when you need to sell a Rolex, you don't lose a lot of dollars. That's not the case of almost all the other brands. Fr.Xavier
I personally find a lot of VFM in Rolex. . .
By: Jack Forster : May 12th, 2009-10:58
. . . partly on a personal, sentimental, brand level (early conditioning is hard to break, and I can't help it, I just get a kick out of that little cyclops date magnifier ;-) ) and on another level, I would respectfully disagree that the in house movemen...
Jack, my comment was just...
By: G99 : May 12th, 2009-11:16
Jack, my comment was just my own opinion and i thought it would get some backlash. what i would say is that to many people a $1000 divers watch with eta 2824 inside it and high quality german made case has to be better value for money than a $4000 watch. ...
slippery slope...
By: ThomasM : May 12th, 2009-11:24
what about $800 watch with pretty much the same as the $1000 watch you describe? What about $500? What about a high quality China made case? Price vis a vis VFM is a very slippery slope... Cheers, TM
Thomas, your quite right. putting...
By: G99 : May 12th, 2009-11:48
Thomas, your quite right. putting a value on something was not a wise thing to do. i should have stuck with my MIH as VFM comment :) suitably chastised Graham
Now, hold on, stick to your guns . . . ;-)
By: Jack Forster : May 12th, 2009-16:55
The assertion you made is potentially a legitimate one according to the terms of the original post, which, after all, asks what watches one thinks represent value for money. We are obliged to some degree therefore to consider price points relative to what...
Jack, i stick by my...
By: G99 : May 13th, 2009-02:35
Jack, i stick by my original opinion on the VFM(or not) of the Rolex brand, what i agree with Thomas on was that i was wrong to bring monetary figures into the post. he is quite correct that once you start on a figure its easy to slide all the way to noth...
Risky business ...
By: AndrewD : May 12th, 2009-21:24
Thanks Thomas and Graham and Jack for entering into this discussion in the spirit in which I meant the question. After wearing an Omega Speedmaster for the last 3 weeks (longer than I have ever done so in one stretch, but I know you would approve, Jack) I...
Twenty Dollars Worth
By: VPREGULATOR : May 12th, 2009-05:00
Here's my favourite coin - real value for money PP Coin...
PP ABR for me
By: nasty204 : May 12th, 2009-06:29
No fancy or complicated movement, better than most in finishing for the same price point, came with a nice packaging , and to top it all a special buckle made for us. What more can I ask?...
Nomos Tangomat...
By: Brava : May 12th, 2009-09:06
A different league from the Breguet but IMO an awful lot of bang for the buck....
Got mine on now!!
By: vernon : May 12th, 2009-09:29
This is a great suggestion! I've got two and love em both. They're pretty accurate too!! Ticks lots of boxes for me - including the 'value' box. Vernon.
My watches value for money will be about any watches
By: PoyFR : May 12th, 2009-09:57
I forget about their worth values. In this I am lucky because most of the watches I own are watches of which their market values is an hidden interest but not the reason I chose then for. Mind you for some of the pieces I own the acquisition price was an ...
Two Chopards For Me
By: NJ_Mark : May 12th, 2009-11:27
I will interpret as value for the money as watches I can buy pre-owned at fantastic prices relative to what you are getting in return. The Chopard Pro One diver easily fits the bill here. Pre-owned pricing is absurdly low and compared to its competition i...
My beloved one
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : May 12th, 2009-14:13
for a) fun reasons - 55mm diameter and still wearable b) emotional reasons - gift of my brother for gaining my PhD degree while he was still student aka unemployed c) social reasons - "the conversation starter" piece about watches d) family reasons - look...
55mm Biggie
By: VPREGULATOR : May 12th, 2009-19:12
Thats what I call a real biggie And I thought my Wyler was a good size,but being tantalum is real heavy. Thanks for the shots.
They all were a "good value", but only one . . .
By: J_Warden : May 12th, 2009-19:41
. . . would be replaced with an exact copy if it were ever lost or stolen. There must be some value there or I wouldn't be so crazy about it It's a Minerva from the 1990s. Jeff...
That’s a nice way to think about it, Jeff …
By: AndrewD : May 12th, 2009-20:56
Hypothetically, when the insurance company pays out for all your watches that had been stolen in a burglary, which ones would you actually replace? [A rhetorical question that you don’t need to answer.] That Minerva is classic simplicity. Beautiful. What ...
Hi Andrew,
By: J_Warden : May 13th, 2009-06:02
It's 39MM. The watch wears tallish due to it's vertical sides and wears large because of the thin bezel. It's my upper limit for size/height and I almost didn't keep it because of the size issue. Glad that I did though. Here's an ill-timed wrist shot just...
For me...
By: MiniCooper : May 12th, 2009-19:50
value for money is the watch that I wear and enjoy the most and the one that I will give my son when he gets his first job. I have not decided which one it will be- but the one that I will give him, it would be the best money that I have spent on a watch ...
thank you Art....
By: MiniCooper : May 13th, 2009-17:38
I appreciate your comment cheers