GP Basel 2013: The unveil of the 1966 Chronograph... Manual!

Apr 25, 2013,00:10 AM
 



As the title of this article suggests it, we are a lot to wait for a manual winding Chronograph from Girard-Perregaux.

These last years, there was a rumor which said that Girard-Perregaux was working on a project of this kind.

This is not a rumor anymore!

Honestly, the 1966 Chronograph, introduced a few years ago, was a pleasant surprise.

Its case and dial are eye catching, captivating:



But many of us complained about the show offered on the back side, with a small ( 10 1/2 "' ), modular and automatic movement:



Indeed, the 1966 Automatic Chronograph is, undisputably, a nice watch, but if you want to compete in the exclusive categroy of fine chrongraphs such as the Datograph, the Malte ( or the Patrimony, now ), the 5070 ( or the 5170, now ), and the Duometre, you need to offer a manual winding and well finished Chronograph movement, in my opinion.

Let's see if it fits the bill, now.

1/ The case:

The 1966 Chronograph lovers won't be disoriented, nor disappointed, as it is exactly the same case, for the manual winding Chronograph, than for the automatic chronograph.

The proportions are harmonious and elegant, with a diameter of 40 mm and a height of 11, 25 mm.

The case is totally polished, like on the Patek 5070, and at the contrary of the Datograph and Duometre, whose sides are brushed.

A matter of taste, here. Personally, I have a slight preference for the finish of the Duometre / Datograph, but it is not a big issue.

The lugs blend elegance and character, a rare compromise which I appreciate a lot.

The sapphire on the case back is flat, while it is slightly domed on the dial side.

Here is a picture of the case back:



To be complete, this new manual chronograph is available in rose gold, only.

Maybe we'll see some other evolutions, in the future, such as a white metal case?

I do hope so!

2/ The movement:



The Cal 3800 is, of course, a column wheel chronograph, whose dimensions are a tad bigger than the " automatic brother ", with a diameter of 25, 60 mm, and a restrained height ( 5, 40 mm ), which contributes to the relative thinness of this new Chronograph.

Made of 312 parts, this chronograph offers a power reserve of 58 hours, which is much better than the 36 hours of the automatic movement GP 030 C0.

The Microvar variable inertia balance wheel beats at the pace of 28 800 alternances per hour, featuring 6 gold screws for a good equilibrium and two weights to enable a fine adjustment of the movement.

More interesting, the minutes of the chronograph subdial JUMP.

The Chronograph fans will appreciate.

As they will certainly appreciate the care in the movement finishings, which respect the tradition of fine watchmaking, such as the beveled bridges, the Cotes De Genève, the heated blue screws...



A sober, but very pleasant outcome, at the opposite of a baroque Datograph movement.



A tad bigger would have been even more appreciable, as it would have better filled the case back, though.

The size of the movemen also have an impact on the dial, as we'll see right now.

3/ The dial.

I should have used the plural, here, as we have the choice between two dials.

Silver, more understatd:



Or anthracite, with a stronger presence:



Here again, it is a matter of taste. There is no doubt that each of them will find their fans.

Both have, of course, elements in common:

- The Hour markers are applied, and match with the color of the case ( rose gold ).

- A Tachymetric scale which not anymore located on the outside part of the dial, but centered, now.

- The Minutes track, which took the place of the tachymeter.

- The hands have been redsigned on the manual 1966 Chronograph, and are filled with luminova.

- A Date, above 6 o' clock. which is visible through a framed window.

- The 2 centered subdials, which is a remaining signature of the 1966 Automatic Chronograph. A Consequence of the movement size, or a dleiberate choice, or both?

- No more 12 and 6 applied numbers, for a more discrete look.

The look and the feel of this new dial makes a big difference, compared to its automatic brother.

It is difficult to put in words, but I think we go farther in the classicism and the elegance, even if I am, still, a ig fan of the automatic chronograph dial, which was, in my opinion, a bit more surranné.

CONCLUSION:

For those who are in search of a nice and fine chronograph, this last creation from GP has to be seriously considered.

Technically, we are not at the level of a Duometre or a Datograph, but we are not, either, in the same category of prices, the Duometre being slightly above, and the Datograph being largely more expensive.

For your information, the new 1966 Chronograph is priced around 35 000 CH Francs.

In terms of aesthetics and finishings, the new 1966 Chronograph is very interesting, and is a serious contender.

Personally, and it is just the reflect of my taste, I would love to see a white metal case, with a blue dial, and, most of all, a no date version of this opus.

And a tad bigger movement, but this is not a great issue, for me.I would have preferred, in an ideal world, to see the movement better fill the case back.

Cherry on the cake, a Rattrapante version would make me cry...

Of course, all these frst impressions have to be confirmed with a " in the real " experience, but I must say that this new chronograph makes me feel very happy.

Looking forward to reading your comments and thoughts,

Best,

Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2013-04-25 00:11:37 This message has been edited by AndrewD on 2013-04-26 04:56:36


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The movement

 
 By: flamenco : April 25th, 2013-00:55
is without question , stunning. But .... The overall execution is a let down ... 1. The " Chronograph" on the dial spoils the dial for me 2. Speaking of the dial, the cleaner dial of the previous 1966 is more appealing to my eyes. 3. The applied hour mark... 

Well, my friend...

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-02:44
I don't think the case is too thick, at the contrary! As for your other comments, well, the date is my biggest concern. I think we need to see it in the flesh, indeed. Best, and thanks for your input! Nicolas

Second start

 
 By: Mark in Paris : April 25th, 2013-01:07
Finally we can talk about it :) I find this last opus to be a significant improvement from the previous version, especially as movement is an important issue for me when considering a watch. I'm very glad they decided to move that way as it brings GP more... 

The movement is top, no question about that.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-02:48
We dreamt to see it coming, now it is here. I don't think the Patek movement is " much " nicer than this one, though. But yes, I see it as a contender of the Lange 1815 Chrono and even closer, aesthetically, the Patrmony from Vacheron. We'll come back to ... 

1815

 
 By: flamenco : April 25th, 2013-02:49
Excellent point Mark. This is encroaching on 1815 teritory, and will take quite a bit to swing a decision in favour of the GP.

Awesome !

 
 By: cisco : April 25th, 2013-02:11
Exactly what missed imho to Girard Perregaux, basic calibers are great, (still need a nice manual winding ) , the Grandes Complications are maybe the most amazing among all the great brands and so are the troubillons. Missed only medium complications ,and... 

A promising and good start, I agree.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-02:49
Most of all, I totally agree with you that something like that was missing, in the GP collection of movements. Best, Nicolas

The dial features the new design 'language' ...

 
 By: AndrewD : April 25th, 2013-04:53
... with the faceted and polished indices and the faceted hands. These are quite a bit more complex to manufacture and add a lot of visual interest and depth to the dial. I also like the two-toned effect of the dial. Andrew

Thank you Nicolas for this review. My opinion and views are...

 
 By: Sandgroper : April 25th, 2013-04:34
1. The mouvement looks stunning, the architecture is quite different from, say, the Lemania and of course the Datograph but I find it very interesting and the finish looks top notch. 2. I still find the mouvement a little lost in the 40mm case, it is in m... 

I can't wait to see the further developments on this manual chrono, yes.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-07:09
you know I would have much preferred it without a date... so a simpler one, or even better, with a Rattapante, would make my day! Best, my friend. Nicolas.

perhaps GP wants to use this movement on their other models...

 
 By: vlkcheng : April 25th, 2013-05:13
such as the vintage 1945. Which could be why it's only 25.6mm in diameter when they were designing the movement. Are they really bringing in a rattrapante version?? My initial thoughts on the movement, not bad but definitely not A. L&S or PP level. Bu... 

I would love to see a Rattrapante in such a watch!

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-07:15
Without date, with a blue or black dial, I immediately buy it! Nothing is sure, the watch is just born. Let's see if GP will give it a passionate life! :) Best, Nicolas

They should have made it...

 
 By: fernando : April 25th, 2013-05:27
38mm, no date , no chronograph wording. But that's just my opinion. :) cheers fernando

At least we are not over 40mm! You are so picky, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-07:16
But I do agree with you on the date... ;) Best, Picky Nicky.

I see a chronograph with lots of ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : April 25th, 2013-05:31
character. Much more interesting than its predecessor, in any case. The movement looks very interesting and has to be seen in the flash. Even more interesting should be the pusher feeling, which is one of the essentials for such a chronograph. Will it be ... 

Darn nice offering here.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 25th, 2013-07:02
As always, there are little things we would prefer to change, but overall, this is a nice creation by GP. Definitely like the cleaner tach scale and hour markers. I am not as convinced with the date and trim window, which detracts a bit from the overall. ... 

Same here on the date. For the rest, I am quite happy with it.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-07:19
A slightly bigger movement, and a white metal case are welcome. A Rattrapante is HIGHLY welcome! ;) Best, Nicolas.

Another manual Chronograph is always a treat.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 25th, 2013-10:11
This one looks particularly interesting. Glad to see GP with this one! Thanks Nicolas. Best, CaliforniaJed

Thanks for viewing, my friend. Yes, this is great news, and

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-11:05
We are many to expect more from GP! Best, Nicolas

That is a wonderful chronograph ...

 
 By: nilomis : April 25th, 2013-10:26
And movement. Some day they will do one in SS without the date and I will go to be the first in line for it. Cheers, Nilo

nice movement, but...

 
 By: Albert.J : April 25th, 2013-11:20
The dial is somewhat uninspiring to me. IMHO, flamed date window and luminescent hands ruin the dial. I would like to see the silver chaptering removed as well! I simply want to see this manual movement combined with previous design!

I was thinking about the previous dial, combined to this movement.

 
 By: amanico : April 25th, 2013-22:28
Which is not too difficult to imagine, since this is the same case... And yes, the old dial has a lot of charm, but I would like to see the new dial wuthout date... Thanks for your input, Albert. Best, Nicolas

There is something which surprises me a bit.

 
 By: foversta : April 25th, 2013-11:30
It is the movement diameter. Obviously we see behind this diameter the will to use the movement in other contexts, smaller cases etc... But I find that in today standards and even for the future, 29/30mm would have been better. It is a question I will ask... 

Girarr Perregaux, manual wind, no date, 38mm

 
 By: WatchFred : April 25th, 2013-14:35
Great review, Nicholas, thank you ! Lovely piece, but, as discussed in another thread, vintage pieces for me very often have that little extra bit of balance and elegance, get it "just right". A Girard Perregaux, a bit below 38mm, manufacture manual wind ...  

this one is perfect [nt]

 
 By: vlkcheng : April 25th, 2013-16:32

Manual chronograph in white metal, black dial and no date

 
 By: MTF : April 28th, 2013-12:21
Nico, I agree. Manual chronograph in white metal case, black dial / white markers and no date window for symmetry. That would be the next stage of improvements to the range......... :-) MTF