here is the pic of back, not a CR

Jan 21, 2012,08:27 AM
 



Thanks tick talk, I looked it up in Antiquorum database and believe it is a 6105

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Can someone help identify the ref # of this watch?

 
 By: Jason de Beijing : January 19th, 2012-20:03
Hi everyone, I 've just purchased this beautiful VC in rose gold from a reputable jeweler. It has manual movement and screw down back. 35mm diameter. I did some reseach and found similar model with ref# 6073 but with sweep second. Can someone help identif...  

A familiar style

 
 By: Tick Talk : January 20th, 2012-07:47
That case style is very familiar to most Vachonistas as it was used in several models of the 1950s and 60s. The lugs are distinctive and were meant to represent arms of the Maltese Cross. Cases with this style were available in 32 to 37mm sizes and and se... 

Thanks, it was indeed made in late 50s

 
 By: Jason de Beijing : January 21st, 2012-06:11
Thanks tick-talk, the watch was indeed made in late 50s. I don't have the proper tools to open the case now so can't see the movement and caseback. I searched on the web for 6105 but did not find any, guess this ref is rare. I also have a vc chronograph f... 

Antiquorum database

 
 By: Tick Talk : January 21st, 2012-07:34
Jason, you should check Antiquorum's online database...a great source. Search Vacheron 6105 and you will find a couple of examples that match your dial and case. As far as your other timepiece, you will have to post pics here or send me a pm.

it also looks like V&C Chronomètre Royal ref. 6110

 
 By: Berny : January 21st, 2012-06:44
which is a Chronomètre Royal with calibre 1007/BS. Best regards, Berny

The hands may have been changed, but they are not CR hands

 
 By: dshao1 : January 21st, 2012-07:23
The only way to know for sure is to open up the back of the case and provide pictures of the movement. Actually you can easily see if it is a CR by seeing the the back of the case has "Chronmetre Royale" engraved on the back. But I'm guessing if it was en... 

LOL we answered at the same time!

 
 By: Tick Talk : January 21st, 2012-07:30
Hi Dan . I trust you enjoyed SIHH and will write about it too? May I also suggest for those comfortable with handling their own watch that a Horb silicone ball should easily open most vintage screw-back cases...if it's too tight for the Horb then a watchm... 

here is the pic of back, not a CR

 
 By: Jason de Beijing : January 21st, 2012-08:27
Thanks tick talk, I looked it up in Antiquorum database and believe it is a 6105...  

No Alpha hands Berny

 
 By: Tick Talk : January 21st, 2012-07:25
Of course we are handicapped by working from a single picture, but that is part of the fun too! The CR version had unique dagger-style hands often described as Alpha type.

Wikipedia provides informations on a famous Mr James H. Douglas, Jr.

 
 By: Berny : January 22nd, 2012-02:38
Wouldn't that be the one ? I noticed that in 1960 he became Deputy Secretary of Defenses under the Einsenhower admninistration. Some extracts : James Henderson Douglas, Jr. (March 11, 1899 – February 24, 1988) was a lawyer and senior-level official in the... 

I think that was him

 
 By: Jason de Beijing : January 22nd, 2012-10:30
Thanks Berny, That was what the Jeweler shop said. It has cold was provenance. The was initially advertised on ebay but I bought direct from the shop. Should I post on the VC hour lounge as well? I did not know there is an American Heritage part.

Vacheron Constantin was not consistant in engraving

 
 By: WHL : February 8th, 2012-08:31
the reference number inside the case back of their watches at the time your watch was made (late 50's). It can be frustrating. Bill

Thanks Bill. So how do people know the ref#?

 
 By: Jason de Beijing : February 9th, 2012-17:57
Did they only indicate the ref# on warrantee paper and catalog maybe?