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Why 5196 stayed but 5296 gone?
Maybe some members already knew or explained before but I missed it and a quick search shows no concrete answer.
If I look at WT references for example, it goes from 51xx (5110->5130) to 5230 and 5131 to 5231. Then why did the 5296 went away but the 5196s stayed, like reversing trend?
Was it because of the movement? I thought 5296 using 324s is more modern than the 5196’s 215?
The new Calatrava 5212 also starts with 52.
Any good inputs, please?
Why 5196 stayed but 5296 gone?
Maybe some members already knew or explained before but I missed it and a quick search shows no concrete answer. If I look at WT references for example, it goes from 51xx (5110->5130) to 5230 and 5131 to 5231. Then why did the 5296 went away but the 5196s...
They have different functions. And these models sell not good enough to keep
different models within the same niche. Just a couple of years ago, till 2014 i guess, there were 5127, 5196 and 5227. Its both for the company and the consumer interesting to have complicated pieces so TS decided to reduce pieces to sell as much complica...
Thanks for the input. 5227 is still here today...
so that follows the number code. I'm surprised to see the 5296 sector dial gone too. However, the creation of a 5212 in SS has resulted in another hot watch which is not readily available, long waiting list and "hard to get", so does it really help the Ca...
Even the 5296 was a watch that was hard to get in the sense that I was looking across some 10 dealers on 2 continents until I found the one I wanted in Kuwait:
I am also happy that I bought one just before it was discontinued. ...
I just wish I wore it more often... It's also the smallest watch I have at 38mm.
As I am a more "modern" guy, preferring watches with diameters between 40 and 42mm, I wished the 5296 would be 40mm but I am suspecting this might ruin the overall look of the watch on my wrist. I also noticed that in the Complications section Patek has g...
Congrats on your 5296...
I never knew this was so difficult to find because I think I saw them on display in US ADs. You sure about 40-42mm? How this 5522A look? ...
It does have all the right ingredients :)
Wow...I didn’t know there is such a restriction on customers? I thought this watch is for US based ADs and it will be up to ADs to allocate but I guess I’m wrong. So I’m lucky then...Thanks for making my day!
I liked the 5296 sector much more than the 5212.
But isnt it the case that it has helped the collection to become more relevant? When they are continuing the 5212 path, the calatrava will be the little brother of the Nautilus and GMT Master in terms of waiting list and that would be a huge succes. That ...
I feel the 5212 strategy will help the Calatrava line in the long run...
The more I look at this 5296 sector dial now, the better it appears to me. Who knows, it may be a future classic.
Sector AC very underrated!
I hadn’t realized there was historical precedence for a sector complication - but in the goldberger steel Patek book on page 7 shows a sector PCC (ironically in yellow gold)
The x96 number of course ties to the reference 96 calatrava
The x96 number of course ties to the reference 96 calatrava - so the x96 watches have a difference numbering convention. 5196 5296 5396 5496 are more hierarchical than based on newness. The reason 5196 is still in the collection and the 5296 is not, is th...
Right....I forget about the more complicated 53/5496s.
Plus, now that you mentioned, there isn't really any modern (by modern, I agree a bigger movement), manual wind PP watches besides the mechanical chronographs or perpetual calendar chronos. Therefore, keeping the manual 215 makes more sense now...Thank yo...
Agreed. I’m in the market for my first Calatrava...
And I do love the 5196, but struggling to get past the huge movement ring they need to put inside it! The 3796 is a work of art, but just too small. I’ve recently been obsessing over the 5096 (an obsession recently fueled even more by someone posting it o...
I've been through the exact same analysis and came to the same conclusions.
I was very close to buying a 5096 but couldn't find the right copy. In addition to getting a full sized movement for the sake of perhaps what i would call integrity (for lack of a better word) AND the small seconds would be better positioned in a properly...
96 is sized okay for men
It takes an hour or two to get used to the case size, then you will forget it's there. The case centers very well in the arm. Chk ...
Is that the ancestor Ref 96, one that’s started all this?
Looks great for its age and on your wrist, congratulations 🎉
Very cool - I hope to obtain someday
Definitely the 96 works well particularly with the domed crystal- the 3796 seems like it might wear smaller with the flatter domed sapphire
I wouldn’t stress about the movement, is fantastically reliable
google walt odets patek 215 on timezone: watch is meant to be worn and wound every day, hence the bulletproof 215 Ill do a post on this soon ...
I am not a watch expert...
But I know what I like, and that watch you are wearing is maybe the most pure and aesthetically pleasing piece I have ever seen. I have a Patek 5135 which I love and I've seen a number of Calatravas that always catch my eye due to their simplicity, which ...
Thanks for your kind words Drew....
This 5196P is very similar to an earlier Ref they have in their PP museum, design wise so maybe that is why it retains the charm. Cheers 🍻