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Patek Minute repeater

 

Dear all,

I am looking to buy a vintage Patek minute repeater, circa 1880 to 1900.

In this respect, I have come across several pieces and thus have a couple of guidance questions.

1. In one of the watches, the case number and movement number is the same; is this normal?
2. Neither the cuvette nor the case (inside) have any hallmarks nor patek signatures; rather, they only have the number. Is this normal?

I thank you in advance for your kind help.

Truly yours,

Calatrava

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pocket watches

 
By: autowind : December 19th, 2012-05:21
#1 - not common but possible #2 - older pocket watches often had cases made by different manufacturer than movement

Case and movement number

 
By: Calatrava : December 19th, 2012-07:50
Thanks autowind. I have several images but have not been able to upload them (the uploading tool apparently is not working). I have an additional question; even if the case is made by a different manufacturer, I would have thought that it would be hallmar... 

Patek watches cased in the USA?

 
By: Calatrava : December 19th, 2012-13:37
I now have additional information and perhaps an explanation for the coincidence between the movement and case number. Apparently Patek manufactured the movement for a US retailer, who made the case in the US and thus numbered it with the same number as t... 

US Case

 
By: autowind : December 19th, 2012-17:35
Yes, it was common for movements made by Patek to be put in cases made in the USA. I don't think that negatively impacts any value although a Patek movement in a Patek case would be particularly valuable because it's the same manufacturer.