Part of the Huguenot Cross

Apr 26, 2021,11:49 AM
 

Geneva came under the rule of Jean Calvin during the French Wars of Religion when Huguenots fled France to  Protestant regions in Germany and Switzerland. The Huguenot Cross was made up of a Maltese cross with four fleur-de-lis at the cross intersections. Take out the Maltese cross (adopted by Vacheron-Constantin) and the four fleur-de-lis come together to make up the Calatrava Cross. The term 'Calatrava' was from the name of a fortress and battle between the Spanish Christians and the Moors (the Christians won the battle) who occupied the Iberian peninsula until 1492. It seems almost impossible today to understand the animosity between the Catholics and Protestants during that period, but it was stronger than most given it credit. (One Swiss canton would not allow Jesuit priests until 1971!)  The schisms were deep and long as during that period religion ruled the mindsets in Europe as well as in the Muslim world. When Breguet fled France during the Terrors following the French Revolution, he went to stay with his grandparents in Switzerland  who had been Huguenots who had fled persecutions France themselves during the War of Religion in France. In any event, the Huguenot Cross and its symbols have been redefined over and over, and the watch companies that have incorporated them in their logos have no intention of reminding anyone that their symbols may have resulted from religious strife that excludes one religion or another from buying their timepieces.


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What is the Calatrava Cross?

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 23rd, 2017-01:45
What is the Calatrava Cross and why is it the Patek Philippe emblem? If the truth is told, nobody can be entirely certain how it happened. According to Patek Philippe literature, the Calatrava Cross was adopted by Patek Philippe as “an identifying brand-s...  

Haha.

 
 By: Bounce781 : October 23rd, 2017-02:06
Good one!

...and the next...and the next [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 23rd, 2017-05:54

Good question!

 
 By: Langeholic : October 23rd, 2017-02:13
I was informed during the factory tour that the Calatrava Cross was introduced when the Sterns took over in 1932/33. They were devout Catholics and the cross was meant to symbolise their faith and protect the wearer.

Duplicate

 
 By: Langeholic : October 23rd, 2017-02:15
Duplicate

That was my argument 😀 [nt]

 
 By: Langeholic : October 23rd, 2017-02:17

but to be fair....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : October 23rd, 2017-02:19
.....it is a religious emblem and its use inside Patek really only accelerated under the Sterns.

Is this true though?

 
 By: @ChumpTime : May 12th, 2021-11:30
As I understood it the Sterns were a Jewish (?) family from the protestant Canton of Bern. Some members of said family relocated to the even more protestant Canton and Republic of Geneva. It’s more likely that the Polish Patek, the French Philippe pr thei... 

The secret ingredient of my Secret Ingredient Soup?

 
 By: MTF : October 23rd, 2017-02:53
baron, Perhaps, it's like the secret ingredient of Mr Ping's secret ingredient soup, the answer is "believe".. It's just a pretty cross..... Kung Fu Panda (2008) Mr. Ping: We are noodle folk. Broth runs through our veins. Mr. Ping: The secret ingredient i... 

Interesting question!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : October 23rd, 2017-03:51
Any ties between any of the Order's and Patek? Best Blomman

Part of the Huguenot Cross

 
 By: williebegoode : April 26th, 2021-11:49
Geneva came under the rule of Jean Calvin during the French Wars of Religion when Huguenots fled France to Protestant regions in Germany and Switzerland. The Huguenot Cross was made up of a Maltese cross with four fleur-de-l is at the cross intersections.... 

Well spotted, I hadn't realised that

 
 By: PPHunter : April 28th, 2021-12:28
Very interesting that they took only part of the Huguenot cross, so that the message remains somewhat hidden.

Calatrava Cross

 
 By: anaroku : April 27th, 2021-05:50
I am also interested in the reason why PP adopted the coat of arms from the Military Order of Calatrava as the trade mark of their Company Products. I can`t find any explanation of this affair so far. But I imagine the 2 1 Calatrava Cross is noble, beaut...